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Old 09-18-2000, 06:54 PM   #1
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Unhappy Dedicated Servers

After having some pretty serious issues with web servering companies, I have decided to move my domains to a dedicated server. This is a completely new area for me and I would really appreciate some advice. I don't know if I feel comfortable having my own box (which I would love) and on the flip side, I really do not have a favorite hosting company that has dedicated servers.

Can anyone give me some advice on this? Do most people start off with a hosting company doing it or do they just start off with their own box? If I have a hosting company host it, can I install whatever I want on it (ie if I want to upgrade from php3 to php4 can I just do it? Do you get full access?) If you have a box at home, what kind of lines are best?

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Old 09-18-2000, 07:48 PM   #2
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A Dedicated Box, in all of the places I've seen on the net, is fully under your control. You can install anything you want and run anything you want. You're just limited, by the number of IPs and Bandwith you buy.
I'm not really good at giving advice at how hard it's going to be, but you will run into some troubles, and seeing how you will most likely be gettin a *nix box, you will need fundemental knowledge about Linux, Apache and the software you are running.

My Fav Hosting Company for dedicated servers is www.catalog.com , their redhat boxes are very cheap, and support is fab!
That's my personal experience with them. Regardless, there are many good hosting companies out there, and you should go out and do some research, by going through the Cnet TOP hosts, and links from this bbs(search for dedicated server), I know that's what I did when looking for a dedicated server.

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Old 09-19-2000, 06:15 AM   #3
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I have researched this and I am stuck between having my own box and co-locating, or just using a web hosting company hand having a dedicated server. The key is the configuration of the server.

I sat in on a chat last night and heard other people's experience's on this, and received a few recommendations, which is what I was looking for. If you look through web hosting directories, they all try to make themselves look great. I want one that is trustworthy.

This will be the first time that I have my sites all in one place. As it is now, they are scattered...so if some are down, others are functioning.

So this week I will be learning about hardware it seems. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif Yet another thing to add to the long list of responsibilities a webmaster has. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks for the help.
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Old 09-19-2000, 07:07 AM   #4
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Tyme,
I was going through that same sort of proccess only a month ago. I was debating whether to co-locate somewhere close to me, or go for a dedicated server at a very reasonable price.
I found co-location expensive, because you gotta get rack space and I don't remember the exact pricing but the best I found was I think 512kps/sec(with rackspace, etc) for $300/month , there could be better prices out there, but that's the best I found at the time. All this, plus the $1000-$2000 I had to pay up front to buy the server.
Alas, there are plenty of hosting companies that offer the hardware and bandwith I needed for the same price a month, without having to pay the money up front for a server. Catalog was one of those places, I have a Celeron 600 with 512megs of Ram, and a 20 gig HD, with 100gigs/month and 4 IPs, all for $289 a month. The Hardware is reasonable, cpu could be better, but the ram is plenty, and the bandwith satisfied my needs, so for the same price as co-locating I was able to get a dedicated server.
The problem with it might be, as you're thinking from your last post, what company can I trust, and that's a question with a tough answer. You won't find gurantees of quality unless your prepared to dish out big bucks, but some hosts are reasonable at a good price. It was down to 2 companies for me, Catalog and 1 other(forgot the name right now)..... I searched on this forum and others for comments about both companies, and as always some people said it was fab, other said they ******. I just made a decision and said what the hell, I'll run my luck. And I guess I got lucky, they've been terrific with me so far, answered all my questions very fast, within 5 minutes from sending in support questions.
You'll have to make a decision also, and hope it's a good one http://geekvillage.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Old 09-19-2000, 07:41 AM   #5
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Co-locating is out of the question...when I saw some of the prices I nearly choked. It got comical when I saw basic support for $125/hr.

For the money it makes more sense to go with a dedicated server. Catalog.com was one that came recommended to me from several people.

I have it narrowed down to a few. They came highly recommended and they said the support was excellent (which is real important to me) so now comes the hard part....choosing. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Old 09-19-2000, 07:58 AM   #6
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Old 09-19-2000, 06:20 PM   #7
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i was in exactly the same position and went with rackspace.com at the end of may 2000 cause the support is great and nearly all free... i am new to dedicated servers and loved their webmin interface and http://wizard.rackspace.com which makes setting up virtual accounts and domains very easy http://geekvillage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

do a search on this forum for dedicated servers and you'll come up with some posts i and others have made.

i just upgraded my dedicated server for the 2nd time at rackspace.com from 128MB to 256MB and now to 384MB in memory... very fast now http://geekvillage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Old 09-19-2000, 06:23 PM   #8
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catalog.com was another choice... but they stopped replying to my queries about a raq3 server they had on special back in April 2000. So they lost my business...

and the server i have with rackspace is a linux server.

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Old 09-21-2000, 12:23 AM   #9
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I've just recently gotten into running my own server...and it's not exactly easy. However, I've had no problems whatsoever with stability and the server is so overbuilt that there is absolutely no stress on the machine at all. I've got tons of space now. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

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