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Old 02-22-2000, 07:10 AM   #1
Pavel Golovko
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Lightbulb Promote your site

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I hope WildComputer, Arn, Aaron Dragushan will forgive me for this post http://www.very-cool-stuff.com/ubb/smile.gif

As I see many people in this forum are looking for a quick and stable way to promote their site. This topic has been beaten to the ground many times already, and no real answer was found.

It is an impossible task to have your site listed in Yahoo categories. And if you do submit your site to AltaVista, your site wont be shown in top 100 search results. It is true that search engines give you the most visitors. It is true, really. But only if you enslave yourself by submitting your site over and over every day. Vaste of time, isn't it?

FFA lists? Nobody visit them anyway, except may be you. And even if 10 or 20 people accidentally get there, they wont see your tiny link in overcrowded FFA list. FFA is good only for email spamming, when you give them your email address, and that's it.

Banner/link exchanges? Oh yea, big help! Usually they display 2 of your banners if you display 3 of their. Do you care about the content? You better be, because these LinkExchange networks can't possibly control thousands of banners every minute, and more likely you will get a porno banner on your auction site.

Recommend you site to a friend over email. That's a good one! You visit someones site, give them your email address, and get junk messages every week or so. How many time do you think I did that for the past five years? None, zero, net, non, no ... Just forget it.

I could go over and over describing the beauty of site promotion, but lets not waste the space and bandwidth of good-old "www.very-cool-stuff.com" server http://www.very-cool-stuff.com/ubb/smile.gif

At http://www.cellwarp.com , we offer you may be not the best for 'newbies', but surely effective site promotion for those who learned their HTML. I am talking about the Top Sites traffic exchange program, where you are in control of everything that goes in and out, where you are in control of the content, and where your site will be getting targeted visitors. It has been proven before, and it always works, that Top Sites ranking systes is one ultimate site promotion tool. How would you like to have an extra 5000 or 10000 buyers come to your auction? Great! And how would you like thousands of other auction sites to have a banner/link to your auction site? Even better! Well here you go, you don't even need to know CGI, Java, ASP, PHP, or whatever else is out there -- it's all done for you already.

You prabobly wandering what that the "Top Sites" is, and what you cook it with. Let me tell you the basics of how this program work.
Top Sites is a banner/link traffic exchange program, that ranks member sites by the number of visitors they have. The higher your rankings, the more visitors will come to your site from the Top Sites. Once you signup, you will be given an HTML code that you will copy/paste into your site. Some of your current visitors will click the 'voting' banner/link, and will bring your site a little higher in the Top Sites rankings bringing you even more visitors back. Lovely, isn't it?
There's more: At http://www.cellwarp.com you don't have to signup for someone elses Top Sites -- you can get your own Top Sites ranking system for free. At CellWarp.com we use an advanced ranking system developed by Solution Scripts, which is sold (right now) for $250. If you can't afford this price or don't want to pay for it, we don't care -- we already paid that price for you.

Please review some of the features that will be available to you at your Free Top Sites ranking system:

1. Variable editting completely browser based.
2. Counts out-going hits.
3. Ability to split the rankings up among many pages.
4. Gateway or double cgi protection option available.
5. Daily system and member stats.
6. Bulk Email to all members.
7. Admin and Member editing of account.
8. IP blocking to deter cheaters.
9. Total control over colors and look.
10. Ease of customization (headers and footers for all pages)
11. You decide how you want your members to be ranked:
- Total hits in
- Hits in current day
- Hits in current week
- Hits in current month
- Hit/day average
12. User selects their account name.
13. Reminds member if they forgot their account name.
14. Members stats shows total in and out for that day, as well as their rank on that day.
15. Admin editable html code for members sites.
16. 4 configurable "Site of the Moment" slots.
17. Ability to change fonts and colors for sites throught the rankings.
18. Different headers, footers and ad breaks for every ranking page.
19. Delete members whose account where never activated.
20. HTML support.
21. Free system upgrades.
Plus much more!

Please, before making any serious decisions, review our privacy statement that can be found here: http://www.cellwarp.com/legal.html
... and the agreement on signup form that can be found here: http://www.cellwarp.com/cgi-bin/new.cgi

This is not an advertisement, but a useful suggestion. I've tried to make this statement short, really I did. If you find this message to be offensive, fell free to harass me back by email at webmaster@cellwarp.com

Best regards,

Pavel Golovko

The Web's leading provider of Free Top sites hosting

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Old 02-22-2000, 02:52 PM   #2
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Since this is your first post ever here,
and your's is one of the longest posts I've every seen,
and the post is bragging about your site,
I'd say this is the worst case of self promotion I've ever seen.

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But I can always look to the future and wonder why not.
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Old 02-22-2000, 03:43 PM   #3
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This is nothing, but a SPAM.

I bet you got this script from cgi-works.net and then offer the service for free. Didn't you??

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Old 02-22-2000, 06:23 PM   #4
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To everybody:
It is always nice to hear what people think about your ideas http://www.very-cool-stuff.com/ubb/smile.gif

To Questy:
You may be right about me posting huge message, but I disagree with you on self-promotion stuff...
If you try to think of the ideas that I have said, you might understand that there's a big truth about web site promotion. What we offer at CellWarp is a free hosting of expensive CGI script, which can (really) bring the true traffic to your web site. Just think about it -- would you rather pay $250 to Solution Sripts (the developer) or have the same software installed and hosted for you for free? We make it easier for you (webmaster) to promote your site. Just think about it. Really. http://www.very-cool-stuff.com/ubb/smile.gif

My illiterate friend http://www.very-cool-stuff.com/ubb/smile.gif
First of all, SPAM is not what I've posted. SPAM is ...
Electronic junk mail or junk newsgroup postings. Some people define spam even more generally as any unsolicited e-mail. However, if a long-lost brother finds your e-mail address and sends you a message, this could hardly be called spam, even though it's unsolicited. Real spam is generally e-mail advertising for some product sent to a mailing list or newsgroup.
Quote taken from: http://webopedia.internet.com/TERM/s/spam.html

Second, the software that we use at CellWarp is a commercial product that was purchased by CellWarp.com team at http://www.solutionscripts.com for $250. Then it was highly modified to what we have right now. I have personally fixed two security holes, and wrote a signup CGI script that would create the same Top Sites for different members.
There's nothing easier than create 20+ HTML pages that have no real content except for links to 'websponsors.com' and other advertisers. Have you ever in your whole internet experience created something that you could proudly say "I did that, and I can do better!". Can you?

And the last, It appears that your site thefreeguide.com was online since July 28, 1999. And since that time you still haven't actually created real content. How many percent of your visitors do you think will actually bookmark your web site?
Look dude, I don't mean any offense here. http://www.very-cool-stuff.com/ubb/smile.gif

Since 1995 I was creating personal and commercial web sites, including CGI and HTML codding. Later in 1998, I have met another web developer, with whom we were developing miscellaneous web sites all over the internet (and still do). If you need any help -- we are always there for you, and will always be happy to help you. For more information about our web design projects, please contact my partner at: hawkman@cellwarp.com

WildComputer, Arn, and Aaron Dragushan, I'm gonna have to apologize again for the off-topic post. I hope you will agree on what I've said above.

Best regards,

Pavel Golovko

The Web's leading provider of Free Top sites hosting

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Old 02-22-2000, 06:41 PM   #5
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Your a pain, spam is spam, your promoting yourself on a board and that's spam.
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