Do they pay?? - A survey to check which network really pays. - geek/talk: Signature-free discourse for serious web publishers

jpop · 03-02-2001, 02:29 AM

Please drop a message here if you have received any check from the following companies:
http://www.valuesponsor.com http://www.valuecommerce.com.hk http://www.iclicks.com http://japan.datais.com http://www.adorigin.com http://www.banner-mania.com http://www.narrowcastmedia.com http://www.bannerport.net http://www.bannermat.com http://www.exitfuel.com http://www.bulkclicks.com http://www.popupsponsor.com

By the way, which company do you think is the best??

Kaycee · 03-02-2001, 03:17 AM

No, not here.

Hmmm, it's amazing the number of programs requiring you to reach like $100 before they pay you.

Banner Ad Programs? Forget it. There was one company you listed who pays 6 to 7 cents per click on Banner Ads with a minimum payout of $100, to be paid out 30 days after the month your attain that amount.

With Banner Ad click through ratios so low, you would need a very very popular site to make the 100 bucks the first month.

With 5000 visitors aday to your site, you might just make the $100 the first month.

One reason click through ratios are so low is because they're designed to be that way.
Alot of companies Banner Advertise for Name awareness, knowing the click through rate will be very small. A nice way to etch yourself into people's minds for next to nothing.

The companies can then claim a business loss because they spent advertising dollars and no one clicked the darn things and bought their products. (in Layman's terms)

My only advise: Don't be a Newbie Webmaster.
Of course, if you are new, you have no choice. Live and Learn.

jpop · 03-02-2001, 04:05 AM

Actually, my web site got a 220,000 daily pageviews and the CTR is not really low. Therefore, I don't have any problem to earn over $100 for each company.
I just want to know which company really pays...

jkcity · 03-02-2001, 04:12 AM

If my site got 6.6 million page views a month, I would not use any of them except for maybe last defaults.

jpop · 03-02-2001, 04:20 AM

Do you have any recommendation?

**Czar** · 03-02-2001, 04:25 AM

jpop, with that level of traffic, and a decent CTR, you should be looking at higher-paying programs, such as those offered by ValueClick, WebsiteSponsors, FastClick, Burst!, etc.

Still, of those that you mentioned, BulkClicks (an SI company) and iClicks (by MyComputer) are very reliable, and do pay on time. I have personally experienced trouble with NarrowCast, as have others, and there are many pop* programs superior to ExitFuel and PopupSponsor (such as PopupTraffic, GoClick, AdScholar, Unicast).

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Czar
Net-Ads - Webmaster Resource Center
iOnline Network

jpop · 03-02-2001, 06:25 AM

Actually, mine is a Japanese mp3 search engine. http://jpop-mp3.com
Those good advertisers did not qualified my account because my site is in Japanese and it is about mp3. (even if there is not any mp3 files for direct download)
I have tried fastclick, websitesponsor, burst. I have used valueclick in the past but they eventually deleted my account. Also, it seemed that valueclick has already dropped my name on a black list because they do not qualified any other sites that I submitted afterwards...

sdarken · 03-02-2001, 07:39 AM

Bulkclicks is a Standard Internet company - the same company that runs Allclicks & SearchTraffic (among others) and I can assure you that they pay however Japanese webmasters are not allowed to join the Bulkclicks program.

You were asking about ValueCommerce but I see that you are already running ads for them on your site. I presume that you know that ValueCommerce has it's own Japanese site ( http://www.valuecommerce.ne.jp/ ).

japan.datais.com appears to be the Japanese version of FocusIn (formerly Datacom). Assuming this is the same company, they should be reliable. I have used the American equivalent for over a year.

Aren't there any good Japanese advertising companies? I would have thought that this would be big market.

[This message has been edited by sdarken (edited 03-02-2001).]

SSacobie · 03-02-2001, 12:03 PM

Engage: pays on time
Burst: pays on time, though I wouldn't recommend them
24/7: pays late
L90: pays late
Go4media: I'm hoping they just pay late
Everyone.net: not to be trusted
Valueclick: pays on time
Adflight: previously paid on time (might be different now)

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Shane Sacobie
VGF.com
NetGenForums.com

strongcat · 03-02-2001, 02:46 PM

How about FocusIn?
They used to pay on time but now I don't use them anymore even though my account is still alive.

**Czar** · 03-02-2001, 10:43 PM

jpop, now that I know you're from Japan, you may find some value in exploring BMCMedia. They serve sites from the Asia Pacific region (including Japan).

I don't like you chances, since MP3 sites have quickly fallen out of advertisers' favor, but it's worth a try.

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Czar
Net-Ads - Webmaster Resource Center
iOnline Network

03-02-2001, 02:29 AM	#1
jpop Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 6	Do they pay?? - A survey to check which network really pays. Please drop a message here if you have received any check from the following companies: http://www.valuesponsor.com http://www.valuecommerce.com.hk http://www.iclicks.com http://japan.datais.com http://www.adorigin.com http://www.banner-mania.com http://www.narrowcastmedia.com http://www.bannerport.net http://www.bannermat.com http://www.exitfuel.com http://www.bulkclicks.com http://www.popupsponsor.com By the way, which company do you think is the best??

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03-02-2001, 03:17 AM	#2
Kaycee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 122	No, not here. Hmmm, it's amazing the number of programs requiring you to reach like $100 before they pay you. Banner Ad Programs? Forget it. There was one company you listed who pays 6 to 7 cents per click on Banner Ads with a minimum payout of $100, to be paid out 30 days after the month your attain that amount. With Banner Ad click through ratios so low, you would need a very very popular site to make the 100 bucks the first month. With 5000 visitors aday to your site, you might just make the $100 the first month. One reason click through ratios are so low is because they're designed to be that way. Alot of companies Banner Advertise for Name awareness, knowing the click through rate will be very small. A nice way to etch yourself into people's minds for next to nothing. The companies can then claim a business loss because they spent advertising dollars and no one clicked the darn things and bought their products. (in Layman's terms) My only advise: Don't be a Newbie Webmaster. Of course, if you are new, you have no choice. Live and Learn.

03-02-2001, 04:05 AM	#3
jpop Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 6	Actually, my web site got a 220,000 daily pageviews and the CTR is not really low. Therefore, I don't have any problem to earn over $100 for each company. I just want to know which company really pays...

03-02-2001, 04:12 AM	#4
jkcity Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: England Posts: 427	If my site got 6.6 million page views a month, I would not use any of them except for maybe last defaults.

03-02-2001, 04:20 AM	#5
jpop Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 6	Do you have any recommendation?

03-02-2001, 04:25 AM	#6
Czar Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Posts: 9,488	jpop, with that level of traffic, and a decent CTR, you should be looking at higher-paying programs, such as those offered by ValueClick, WebsiteSponsors, FastClick, Burst!, etc. Still, of those that you mentioned, BulkClicks (an SI company) and iClicks (by MyComputer) are very reliable, and do pay on time. I have personally experienced trouble with NarrowCast, as have others, and there are many pop* programs superior to ExitFuel and PopupSponsor (such as PopupTraffic, GoClick, AdScholar, Unicast). ------------------ Czar Net-Ads - Webmaster Resource Center iOnline Network

03-02-2001, 06:25 AM	#7
jpop Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 6	Actually, mine is a Japanese mp3 search engine. http://jpop-mp3.com Those good advertisers did not qualified my account because my site is in Japanese and it is about mp3. (even if there is not any mp3 files for direct download) I have tried fastclick, websitesponsor, burst. I have used valueclick in the past but they eventually deleted my account. Also, it seemed that valueclick has already dropped my name on a black list because they do not qualified any other sites that I submitted afterwards...

03-02-2001, 07:39 AM	#8
sdarken Registered User Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,396	Bulkclicks is a Standard Internet company - the same company that runs Allclicks & SearchTraffic (among others) and I can assure you that they pay however Japanese webmasters are not allowed to join the Bulkclicks program. You were asking about ValueCommerce but I see that you are already running ads for them on your site. I presume that you know that ValueCommerce has it's own Japanese site ( http://www.valuecommerce.ne.jp/ ). japan.datais.com appears to be the Japanese version of FocusIn (formerly Datacom). Assuming this is the same company, they should be reliable. I have used the American equivalent for over a year. Aren't there any good Japanese advertising companies? I would have thought that this would be big market. [This message has been edited by sdarken (edited 03-02-2001).]

03-02-2001, 12:03 PM	#9
SSacobie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Silver City, NM, US Posts: 487	Engage: pays on time Burst: pays on time, though I wouldn't recommend them 24/7: pays late L90: pays late Go4media: I'm hoping they just pay late Everyone.net: not to be trusted Valueclick: pays on time Adflight: previously paid on time (might be different now) ------------------ Shane Sacobie VGF.com NetGenForums.com

03-02-2001, 02:46 PM	#10
strongcat Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 129	How about FocusIn? They used to pay on time but now I don't use them anymore even though my account is still alive.

03-02-2001, 10:43 PM	#11
Czar Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Posts: 9,488	jpop, now that I know you're from Japan, you may find some value in exploring BMCMedia. They serve sites from the Asia Pacific region (including Japan). I don't like you chances, since MP3 sites have quickly fallen out of advertisers' favor, but it's worth a try. ------------------ Czar Net-Ads - Webmaster Resource Center iOnline Network