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Old 01-09-2001, 01:15 PM   #1
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Unhappy Lets talk about your problems!?!

What programs do you think we should avoid using or had problems with. Now u find these scattered all over forums but i think one thread could be very useful so please list the program and the problem. I will start.

ALSO What action should be taken??? for people like me with problems?

Everyone.net : Never paid owed me over $2000 from signups. Over 5 months and waiting.

Dimeclicks : Pay small amounts but nothing over $200 to me.
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Old 01-09-2001, 01:33 PM   #2
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cj.com never paid me $300 i have emailed them several times asking for a more detailed explanation but no reply, they said i had there banner on a cheats site when that is impossible since i had not used there banners for like a month (too low cpm rate) and the cheats site i had was only afew days old and a link on the site i signed up for (not part of the same site, but it did have the same design, different url though maybe thats why they thought i cheated) and didnt have there banners on it and didnt even have any content on the cheats site.

Would i be able to take legal action against them ??
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Old 01-09-2001, 02:34 PM   #3
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Can you please explay that again, WITH grammar? No offense, but it's kind of hard to understad what your are writing when you don't use any periods.

You say that they left no reply, but on the other hand you say that you had their banner on a cheat site (is this a site with cheats or a cheating site?)

I have no personal experience with CJ, but I highly doubt that they would stop paying if they didn't have a reason?

Why have two sites with the same design?
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Old 01-09-2001, 02:38 PM   #4
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CJ is a good company. I once had a lost check and they personally Fed-exed the check to me. They have always paid.
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Old 01-09-2001, 03:12 PM   #5
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sorry about that i was in a rush.

Ok i made a site http://cheats.whatver.com
I did about half the site design then couldnt be botherd with it anymore.

My other site http://whatver1.com had a **** design so i though i would change it to the design of my cheats site,

1 day after i changed my design for www.whatver1.com i got a email from cj.com saying it is braking there terms to have a banner on a games cheat site.

But i didnt have there banner on a games cheat site and i think they thought i did becuase the designs were the same and i was linking to the cheats page.

But anyway 2days after i got the cj.com email i deleted my cheats site anyway

I have emailed cj.com several times but they have not replied to me

And i had not been using the cj.com banners for like 3 weeks before my cheats site was made so they could not have seen there banner on the cheats site

did that make sense ?



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Old 01-09-2001, 03:17 PM   #6
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Yeah, that makes pretty much sense. You better make sure you wash your hands with them. CJ is a valuable ally.
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Old 01-09-2001, 03:56 PM   #7
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i will tell you whats even worse i had recived half of that already (last months check) but becuase it only had my first name on it i had to send it back to them so they could resend it with my full name.

And guess what i wont be seeing that http://geekvillage.com/ubb/frown.gif as they kept it
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Old 01-09-2001, 04:36 PM   #8
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Why in the world do they prohibit using their banners on game cheats sites?! Do they consider game cheats to be illegal or something?

Anyway, I think the biggest problem for online advertising right now (besides too much demand with no supply) is that ad networks always decide in their favor in case of dispute. In my opinion, there should be an independent entity ruling who's right and who's wrong instead. If there were such things as online police and online courts, it would be much easier to stop cheaters from plaguing online advertising and for innocent webmasters to get their hard earned money in case of unjustified account cancellation. Online world is lagging behind the real world by couple of centuries in this regard.


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Old 01-09-2001, 04:48 PM   #9
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i bet cj.com never refunded my money to the affiliates that it came from ? can i do anything to get them to reply to my emails.

Here we go i found the email they sent:

Graeme Mallam,

In accordance with the Commission Junction Service Agreement, http://www.cj.com/sign-up/Affiliate/..._Agreement.asp
you have been removed from the Commission Junction Network for placing your banners and/or links on gaming pages with links to hacking, cheats, etcetera, which is in violation of the service agreement.

1.1.2 Your Web site does not contain or promote, or Link to Web sites that contain or promote, any of these types of content: libelous, defamatory, ''adult,'' obscene, pornographic, abusive, violent, bigoted, hate-oriented, illegal, cracking, hacking or warez, or the offer any illegal good or service.

As a result, you have been removed from the CJ Network and your earnings have been forfeited.

The CJ Fraud Prevention and Compliance Team

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Old 01-09-2001, 05:36 PM   #10
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I'm gonna agree with truelight on this one. From the way that email sounded, they mean business. Did you possibly link to some site with questionable content?

As far as my bad experiences, I've had some negative ones with beFree's reporting. Gator did a 25$-for-the-first-signup and I know I had at least two and I wasn't credited for either the last time I checked. Reporting is lousy on all affiliate programs I use except CJ.
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Old 01-09-2001, 06:43 PM   #11
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I'm still "waiting" for over $7,000 from NamePlanet.com via LinkShare. I don't believe I'll ever get it either. This is despite repeated emails, and even a direct message from my lawyer to the company (which they didn't respond to either)

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Old 01-09-2001, 07:40 PM   #12
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Graeme,

I doubt a cj rep closed your account just for having game cheats. If they did, the rep is probably misinformed about what game cheats are. There is nothing illegal about them that I am aware of, nor does it state so in the terms (that I remember spending half a day reading when they changed them), if I recall. CJ fraud reps are probably aware of gaming cheats and I can't see how they would have a problem with them. (I am talking about the legal game cheats that game coders intentionally put in the game for gamers' pleasure.)

However, the cj email you posted states you had links to hacking, cheats, etc.

If your (cj approved) site linked to your cheats site, and it had hacking/illegal content or links, even just for one day, you can probably hang it up. Especially if the cheats site was a subdomain or directory of your main site.

It is hard to speculate without seeing the offending pages. Bottom line - if you had links on your CJ site to pages with ANY illegal content or links, you violated the terms. Move on and learn from it.

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Old 01-09-2001, 09:25 PM   #13
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Yes, Nameplanet (through Linkshare)still owes me too but won't answer my emails....

The same for Sayit (also through Linkshare), won't answer emails...

NEW ONE to add to the list of non-payers today, cancelled by USlaw.com, from what I deciphered from their email for being low performance over past 3 months, (also through Linkshare) ducking out of paying my earned commission of course - smart guys these lawyers, they got free advertising off of me with moocho impressions. No justice!

Small pennies separately but when you add just these three from Linkshare together, it equals almost $500. I'm out, but no skin off their backs, nobody to hold them accountable in cyberspace.


Sad, sad, sad...... ho-hum.....we gotta keep movin on folks....

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Old 01-09-2001, 09:29 PM   #14
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Good thinking, fatale. The industry could really use some neutral mediation agency to enforce standards and settle disputes.

Let's just hope they don't receive most of their funding from ad networks http://geekvillage.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Old 01-10-2001, 05:14 AM   #15
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the cheats site was actually a subdomain of the site i was linking to well anyway this is the site im on about http://www.taudb.com

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