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Old 11-08-2001, 05:39 AM   #1
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Default Bush refusing to sign Bio agreement

President Bush has already angered his European allies by refusing to sign a draft agreement strengthening the 29-year old convention on biological weapons that has been ratified by 140 countries. By signing it, America would have to reveal all the secrets of its secret germ factory at Camp 12 sited in the depths of the Nevada desert at the Nellis Air Force range. The area is almost the size of Wales and is guarded by armed troops and state-of-the-art detection equipment.

America insist Camp 12 was created to mimic the steps a rogue state, like Iraq or bin-Ladenís group would take to amass a biological arsenal.
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Old 11-08-2001, 07:51 AM   #2

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Dave, it was suggested in an earlier thread that you submit your information source for the subject of your comments.

I did a search for Camp 12 if anyone is interested.

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Old 11-08-2001, 12:07 PM   #3
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Basic info from a school teacher.

Facts should be presented as facts. Editorial/personal bias comments should be presented as such.

It is inflammatory to present editorial comments as facts.

Are you attempting to inflame public sentiment against a nation's leader?

Isn't America great?
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Old 11-20-2001, 08:41 AM   #4
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Judith Miller New York Times

The United States has concluded that North Korea, Iraq and at least three other countries are developing germ weapons, and has decided to accuse them of violating a treaty they ratified banning such weapons, administration officials said this weekend.

The others to be cited include Iran, Libya and Syria, the officials said.

They said that Washington believes additional countries are also violating the treaty in secret, including some that are friendly with the United States, but that the administration is not prepared to identify them.

The accusations are to be made today in Geneva by John R. Bolton, under secretary of state, at an international conference aimed at strengthening compliance with and enforcement of the treaty, which dates to 1972 and has been ratified by more than 140 countries, including the United States.

The public nature of the accusations, in front of the delegates of the nations cited, is a departure in approach for the government, although in the past the executive branch has leveled charges against individual governments in testimony before Congress and in State Department reports.

Mr. Bolton is also expected to accuse Osama bin Laden of trying to develop biological weapons. His text says that Washington is worried that Mr. bin Laden may have tried to acquire germ weapons "with support from a state," which Mr. Bolton does not identify.

The decision to "name names," as Mr. Bolton's speech puts it, is part of a new strategy to persuade countries to stop developing germ weapons by embarrassing suspected treaty cheaters. "Prior to September 11, some would have avoided this approach," states the speech Mr. Bolton is scheduled to give, a copy of which was provided to The New York Times. "The world has changed, however, and so must our business-as-usual approach."

The allegations are not specific, nor is the source of any evidence provided.

But they are intended to deflect criticism of the Bush administration from those who say that it is Washington that has undermined the treaty, which it pioneered. Critics at home and abroad reproached the administration last summer for rejecting an agreement that was meant to strengthen compliance by establishing an inspection system.

While most other parties to the treaty overwhelmingly supported the so-called protocol, the administration rejected it, arguing that it would have undermined American bio-defense programs and given the world a false sense of security by failing to prevent cheating.

Administration officials said they hoped that the policy of accusing countries will focus public ire not on the United States, but on the countries that have signed and ratified the treaty but are cheating on it. They also hope that the strategy will encourage countries to consider alternative measures that the United States has proposed to strengthen the treaty and compliance.

Officials, historians and arms control experts said the United States has accused North Korea and 11 other states of cheating in annual reports filed by the State Department and in periodic testimony that administration officials have given on Capitol Hill. But they said this is the first time that the United States has used an international gathering of treaty members to denounce alleged violators to their faces.

Philip Zelikow, an official in the first Bush White House and a historian of the presidency, called the denunciations "entirely appropriate."

Previously, he said, the United States had shunned open confrontations, relying on "quiet pressure" with the idea that it was more effective. For instance, he said, two defectors warned Washington that thousands of Soviet scientists were developing and stockpiling germ weapons at dozens of sites throughout the Soviet Union in violation of the treaty.

After that, American officials tried quiet persuasion to get Moscow to change its ways. "That effort was not entirely successful," Mr. Zelikow recalled. "While the leaders agreed with us, they were unable to deal with their own internal problems and end the program."

A new awareness of the dangers of germ weapons began with the Sept. 11 attacks and the anthrax letters later sent to Capitol Hill and to news organizations, Mr. Zelikow said.

In the prepared text, Mr. Bolton asks, "Will we be courageous, unflinching, and timely in our actions to develop effective tools to deal with the threat as it exists today? Or will we merely defer to slow-moving multilateral mechanisms that are oblivious to what is happening in the real world?"

But Mary Elizabeth Hoinkes, a former senior official in the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, which has been merged into the State Department, called the approach ham-handed.

"Such finger-pointing is aimed at deflecting pressure on the Bush administration for its rejection of a serious verification system," she said. Ms. Hoinkes noted that Washington would not previously have identified a suspected cheater before listing it in annual compliance reports and having discussions with the individual states.

She and other experts on the treaty noted that Mr. Bolton's list did not include Russia, China, Israel, Egypt, and others that Washington also believes are violating the treaty.

Mr. Bolton's text makes clear that he could well have mentioned "other states," which he said the administration would be "contacting privately." Russia is one of the countries that is working in close conjunction with the administration's campaign against Osama bin Laden.

Mr. Bolton's speech says that beyond the bin Laden network, Al Qaeda, Washington's most serious concern is Iraq's germ weapons efforts.

Also extremely "disturbing," he says, is North Korea, which has a "dedicated national-level effort" to acquire germ weapons. He said that North Korea "may have weaponized" some germs, and that it has the capacity to produce "sufficient quantities of biological agents for military purposes within weeks of a decision to do so."

Iran, he says, "probably has produced and weaponized" germ agents, and Libya "may be capable of producing small quantities of agent."

Syria, which has not ratified the treaty, operates a program that may "be capable of producing small quantities of agent," Mr. Bolton said.

Finally, Mr. Bolton said the administration was concerned that Sudan, which has not ratified or even signed the treaty, may be increasingly interested in developing a germ weapons program.

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