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Old 02-27-1999, 09:39 PM   #1
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Default Cheap, fast, and reliable...

I thought I'd take the time to share some business wisdom here. I keep looking at the words "cheap, fast, and reliable" used in some one's search for a web host. While I admit there are some decent low cost web host's out there, I think we all need to think about the difference between cost, and value.

The best example of defining value I have ever heard is based on buying a parachute. If you knew you had to jump out of an airplane, would you buy your parachute at a flea market, a cut rate department store, or a parachute specialist? While some people refuse to admit it, and others are just too price conscience to budge, the majority of people will see the meaning of value if the question involves something that their life would depend on. Value, or quality, is the area where most good business people win out, even when they know they are not the cheapest price.

Time is hard to sell. Every one thinks their time is important. Learn the normal and customary items involved in the services you desire, and expect to pay more for better service. We can definitely apply the golden rule to this subject. For a good working relationship with the professionals around you, respect their time as you would have them respect yours.

FREE, is still the most powerful word in marketing. With web sites today, FREE, generates a ton of traffic. My point is simply, if your living, or reputation, depends on your web site, do you really want to trust it to a free service?

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Old 02-28-1999, 10:40 PM   #2
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I couldn't agree more. I'm not sure why everything has to be free. I think it's a matter of courtesy and valuing others' services.

And professionalism as well ... it would be difficult to maintain that you are a viable, reliable, successful business while hosting your site on a subdomain of someone else's on a slow server. And it's not free anyway ... you're paying for "free" hosting by allowing "free" advertising on your site and settling for lesser services. And by making yourself look unsuccessful in your potential customers' eyes. Pretty expensive, I'd say.

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Old 03-07-1999, 09:48 PM   #3
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I second that emotion.

You think I'd learn after all these years. I fall into the trap of buying the low cost, or relying on free advice, only to have someone rub it it, you get what you pay for!
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Old 03-08-1999, 01:40 PM   #4
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I agree with all the above, but the opposite is not necessarily true... You don't always get what you pay for, on the Web anyway. Case in point: I am paying $900 a month to host one of my sites, and the service has been infinitely worse than any other hosting service I have ever used. Needless to say I am in the process of changing, but still I am out of pocket several $K in setup and hosting fees.

TIP: Since your site IS your life, online, if you use it to do business do not compromise on hosting. If you have problems and your site is always going down, swap! The lost revenue and more importantly the lost sleep is just not worth it!

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Old 03-08-1999, 03:25 PM   #5
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Good point!

Equally important is knowing when to cut your losses, especially when your paying for quality service, and not getting it!

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Old 03-08-1999, 03:28 PM   #6
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<....more importantly the lost sleep is just not worth it!>

Naturally I agree. The following service comes highly recomended to me but I have no first hand experience. The issue is Domain Name Resolution Services as you move from server to server and surfers can no longer "see" your site as each of the zillons of ISP must update there respective DNS records. Some are quick and some are slow. Edwin has a huge job and mine still makes me nervous on a much smaller scale.

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Old 03-10-1999, 06:32 PM   #7
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They, (AlphaOne) claim: we can force every server in the world to check in with our server more frequently for updated information

Sounds good, so how?
And Why couldn't a large web host do the same thing???
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Questy,

Here is the extract:

One of the biggest pains about moving your domain from ISP to ISP is the transfer process. It generally takes 2-3 days to get all of the Internic paperwork to go through, and sometimes even longer for all of the world to see the change (most dialup ISPs keep DNS records in cache for weeks). Consider 3rd party DNS Hosting. The principle advantage to using a 3rd party DNS
service is that since they host your DNS records, you NEVER have to put in a transfer with the Internic. Once the DNS Host has your records, all you need to do is call them, tell them the new IP Number
assigned by your new ISP, and THE SAME DAY, your website is up and actively pointing at your new host/ISP. Very simple. All you'd need to do is order your new account, and tell the new ISP that you do your own DNS, and have them set you up with an IP Number, then call the DNS Host, have them switch your DNS to the new number, and start copying files over. By the time you're finished, the DNS is reactivated. No dealing with Internic, no waiting. It's a beautiful thing. If you're really on the ball, you can expedite the whole thing by alerting the DNS host in advance of a move, and have them change your "Time to live" setting to force the DNS Backbones to constantly re-read your records, so that when the change of IP Numbers happens, the world sees
the change instantly.

A guess, hosting companies aren't in this business and in some cases they are loosing a customer.

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Old 03-12-1999, 04:56 AM   #9
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Steve,

The part of the equation that I can speak from my own observations of switching hosts is the 12 to 24 hours it takes for the DNS cache all over the world to catch up to a change.

Without getting too techie, every router has a set of instructions telling it where to route the information.I was wondering how they could support the claim:" we can force every server in the world to check in with our server more frequently for updated information"

It appears to me, part of their service is that. So why hasn't anyone else figured out this "secret?"

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