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Old 11-17-2000, 01:19 PM   #1
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Unhappy BIG NEWS- Goto.com partnership with Altavista and Lycos!! READ THIS

Two New Large Portal Deals Just Signed!
***AltaVista and Lycos bring GoTo one step closer to becoming the largest, single source of Web traffic!***

GoTo is excited to announce two new major portal deals that will bring an increase in traffic to advertisers beginning this month! These two new partnerships significantly expand GoTo's affiliate network and as a result will allow us to provide you with a one-stop approach to meeting all of your Web traffic

Take a look at how this great traffic will come your way!

Lycos Network Sites:
In this agreement, GoTo will provide Paid Search Results to Lycos Network Sites, which includes both Lycos.com and HotBot.com. Users who conduct searches on Lycos.com, HotBot.com and the directory pages of Lycos Network sites will be shown search results that include GoTo's top 3 listings in a section called "Featured Listings." In addition, at least 2 additional GoTo listings will appear among the first 10 results in the "Web Sites" section on Lycos.com, and GoTo's 4th listing will appear in the number 10 position in HotBot's "Web Results" section.

According to Lycos, over 90% of their visitors have shopped online in the past six months, giving you a great opportunity to reach up to 30 million monthly visitors, who are looking for your products and services!

Full traffic is expected to be in place by the end of November. We will update you as we get closer to the implementation date.

In another milestone event, GoTo will become the exclusive Pay-For-Performance™ search provider for the millions of users of AltaVista. This partnership presents an opportunity for GoTo advertisers to receive traffic from the savvy users of one of the most widely-used search sites! The AltaVista implementation will take place as follows:

The top 5 GoTo results will appear in a section labeled "Sponsored Listings"
on selected AltaVista search results pages. Users can access additional GoTo results by clicking on the "More" link at the end of these results. The Preview is expected to bring several million searches a day. This implementation, which went live today, can be seen when entering a search at http://listings.altavista.com.

Effective November 20th, GoTo's top 3 listings will also appear in a section
labeled "Sponsored Listings" for searches conducted on the AltaVista site at www.altavista.com. By selecting the "More" link at the end of Sponsored Listings, users will be presented with a full page of GoTo results. This launch will expose your listings to a significant portion of AltaVista's 50 million searches a day!

Managing Increased Traffic:
Remember that you can use our DirecTraffic Center™at https://secure.goto.com/s/dtc/center
to manage your bids to ensure that your site is within the top listings.
As you know, we continuously look for opportunities to drive targeted traffic
to your site. Rest assured that if you are unable to move your bid within
the top listings, you will still receive high-volume quality traffic from
GoTo's other affiliate partnerships.

Dan Scholnick
Vice President of Client Services

Questions? Email us at: clientservices@GoTo.com

NOTE: Due to restrictions in our agreement with Lycos Network Sites and
AltaVista, there are some scenarios in which specific search terms or advertisers
may be excluded from the GoTo search results on Lycos.com, HotBot.com, and
AltaVista.com or their distribution partners. For more details on these
excluded terms, please visit our DirecTraffic Center™.



My worst nightmare has come true!!



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Old 11-17-2000, 11:14 PM   #2

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woah... looks like my goto account balance is gonna deplete faster now http://geekvillage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Old 11-18-2000, 03:16 AM   #3
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I was up to nearly $10 per day last week, *without* raising my bids. A GoTo traffic surge!

Sorry - I'm gonna go slightly off topic:

Loren, you are not nearly imaginative enough if this is your worst nightmare. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

My worst nightmare:

MS/RealNames really does become a replacement for the Domain Name system (as they are now aiming to do)

1. Imagine having to pay Bill Gates $100 every time you get 1,000 visitors (from whatever source including repeat visitors to your site, people who click on links in your ezine etc) --- or you loose your "domain"

2. Imagine that you own a "domain" like "Loren's Advertsing and Marketing Information Center".

You are not allowed to choose something shorter, unless you are a multi-million-$ company.

You have to pay before you know if your choice will be accepted - if it's not - you have to try and choose another name - but you can't have your money back.

Well it's no so bad you think, my long name describes my site, and I get some hits from close matches: people looking for "advertising" or "marketing".

Suddenly, unexpectedly, your hits dry up.

It turns out RealNames have sold all variations of "advertising" to a multi-million-$ company

It turns out RealNames have sold all variations of "marketing" to a different multi-million-$ company

You only get hits if somebody types in your *exact* full name. Even 1 character misplaced and they're sent to the big company instead...

Don't think this could happen?

It already did... to RealNames owners with "MP3" or "Jobs" based RealNames.

3. Don't think my whole scenario could happen: it's already started.

Buried under yesterday's news avalanche of dot-biz and dot-museum: were the first steps on this process from MS+RealNames.

70% of people already have access to RealNames, and it will rise as more peope install IE5 + later.

The pitch will be to users, not to webmasters - realnames will be presented as more friendly than dot com, net, org, international TLDs, the new TLDs etc.

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Old 11-19-2000, 08:44 AM   #4
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it a nightmare Loren http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif But an expensive dream.

My site has also experienced a surge in traffic as a result but I've actually lowered the per bid price on most search terms. Im averaging $10 a day even with the lower price.

I think its quite a bargain if you are getting a number one search result on all those search engines for terms you may be paying only one cent for.

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Old 11-19-2000, 09:42 PM   #5
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that's really a horid thing to think about... http://geekvillage.com/ubb/frown.gif

this is the last time I visit the forums before bedtime http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Old 11-23-2000, 04:43 PM   #6
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"You ain't seen nothin' yet", as somebody famous once said.

Check this out:

For the first time in its history, Yahoo is charging a mandatory fee for commercial directory listings. The move is an expansion of Yahoo’s Business Express service launched last year — through which sites pay $199 to be reviewed for listing on Yahoo’s directory within a week, rather than having to wait months to be listed. But until now, that fee was optional...

Hasta la vista to any webmaster who hasn't got at least $100,000 from 2001 onwards...

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Old 11-24-2000, 01:19 AM   #7
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It is definately another move towards all search engines requesting payment to be listed at all. I am sure it is going to begin to be pretty expensive to run a site. I think I prefer the use of skill and judgement to get your site noticed. It is heading towards who has got the biggest wallet.
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