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Old 02-26-2003, 08:59 PM   #1
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Default CJ change - charging for dormant accounts

Just received an email from CJ..it contains this :

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When the new Publisher Service Agreement and productive publisher program become effective on March 28, 2003, Commission Junction will begin assessing a monthly fee of USD $10 to publisher accounts that have not generated any commissions for six consecutive calendar months. The purpose of this fee is to ensure that publishers in our network are producing results. Publisher accounts that have not generated any commissions for six consecutive months and do not have a positive account balance will be closed.
thats not a good thing I hardly ever use CJ anymore..but I guess ill have to start, just incase.

I guess six months is a long time not to get a commission, but $10 a month? whats the point? its not like it costs them anything to have the publisher on board..
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Old 02-26-2003, 09:34 PM   #2
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This is just so they can legally take the money from people who have dorment accounts, and never intend to claim that money or have forgotten about it, I myself probably have a few cj accounts dotted about that I have no intention of using but may have a few $ in them.
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Old 02-26-2003, 09:52 PM   #3
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Just make enough money to get the check and then dump the account. Then you won't lose any money or ever have to pay anything.
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Old 02-26-2003, 09:55 PM   #4
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but then their might be a killer programme on there that I want to run after my account is closed..and I aint goin through the signup again! one lead every six months shouldnt be too hard I guess..
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Old 02-26-2003, 10:41 PM   #5
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Its a dumb idea.
I suppose cj wants to be able to tell potential merchants and advertisers that they have x amount of active affiliates.
Why they can not look at their data and determine this without such a stupid tactic is hard to understand.
If they don't want to deal with publishers that are inactive they should screen new ones more closely.
They dont seem to be instituting anything like this.
This is a bad idea it just hurts CJ's reputation with their larger affiliates. Because this type of thinking is parasitic and can lead to other ways to squeeze out extra revenue.
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Old 02-26-2003, 10:45 PM   #6
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clickxchange already do this, I had some money in a clickxchange account and when I went back they had taken it all for account maintenence, it was about $12.

I reckon alot of other places will follow suit.
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Old 02-26-2003, 11:16 PM   #7
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It makes both of these companies look less credible which should be the last thing an adnetwork or affiliate program should ever wish to do. Before signing up it kind of implies to green newbie joinees that these networks don't expect most of their affiliates to make anything and wish to ensure that the network at least makes something anyway.

Its just like default fees, the principle is the same. Also what kind of affiliate network would wish to abandon those who earn them nothing and cost them no resources to maintain? Maybe they will be important later on but if they return months later and start being active the fee will make them doubt your organization and start immediately looking for a replacement. Also green webmasters who earn nothing but show ads with an affiliate network give free branding and who would not want that? Apparently CJ doesen't like free branding is what I gather.

Its bad business simply put. Its like an anti refer a friend program that costs nothing to set up but takes away a little of a company's prestige, future earnings, and future sign ups a little at a time.
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Old 02-27-2003, 08:14 AM   #8
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I went to CJ to try to cancel my account, and could not find an option to do so. Oh well, guess they'll be charging me $10 a month. Anybody know how to cancel an account there?
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It just spreads bad will from CJ. The only reason why i can think that they would do that is to hussle affiliate in putting links to CJ on thier site.
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I have a dormant account with CJ - haven't used it in about a year. I didn't receive an email and quite honestly not sure I could recall the password/ID for it. I'm assuming they can't legally just serve me a bill 2 years down the road......er...right???
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Luckenbach, the account will be closed as long as it stays dormant, so you don't have to close it yourself.
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cyburrr - You don't have anything to worry about. If you dont have anything in your account they will just close your account. If you have $5 in there, they will take that and then close your account.

Anybody that doesn't like what CJ is going to do only has to earn 1 cent and then CJ will leave their account alone for another 6 months. That doesn't seem like a difficult task.
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Old 02-27-2003, 02:31 PM   #13
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I have invited the cj.com senior management to comment on this thread. No guarantees but they have had a presence in this Community for years.

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Thanks for pinging me Steve_S.

Regarding the new productive publisher policy, it is designed to do several things, all of which should make things better for both advertisers and publishers.

I don't see what there is to complain about since if you aren't earning any commissions within a six-month period, you probably should not have an account in the first place. Why else are you joining CJ if not to earn commissions?

OK, why is this a good thing:
1) It's the old 80/20 rule. Advertiser will focus on publishers that are earning commissions in the network and not be distracted by the 80% that are not doing anything.

2) Reporting will be faster because there will not be unproductive publishers generating reports to see that they generated a few impressions and clicks but no commissions. Advertisers will not have to manage as many relationships and will know that they are working with productive publishers. This will make their reporting and publisher management tools much faster too.

3) Publishers will get more attention from their advertisers because there will be less "static" obscuring their efforts.

Finally, no one is getting billed for the dormant account fees. If their balance is zero, their account will just get closed. If the have a balance of between $0.01 and $24.99, they can request to have their account closed and the balance paid in full. If they do nothing, eventually the account will go down to zero (@$10/month) and get closed.

I hope this helps clear things up.

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Todd: You welcome and thanks so much for taking the time out of your busy day to help our members with your post.
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