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Old 04-29-2001, 12:52 PM   #1
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Question banner-mania defaults

I used them for a little while but was dismayed to see so many defaults...

served : 7482
defaults : 5239
earnings : $1.1215

I added their code for a couple of hours some day. Every time I checked, I saw their NY Times ad and -never- a default one (adtegrity for me).

So I was totally surprised to see that more than 70% of ads served by them were defaults !

Therefore, I am wondering if they are somehow undercounting the real number of paid ads and overcounting the defaults ?

Since it is known they increase the clickthru % with popups, I was wondering if they also undercouted the real number of paid ads, saying they are defaults instead ?

I read other webmasters use banner-mania as their main and (valueclick) for their defaults, and I was wondering if there is a difference, if any, in the number of defaults shown in banner-mania, and the number of banners served by valueclick.

Thanks !

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Old 04-29-2001, 05:13 PM   #2
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has nobody had any experience with them ?
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Old 04-29-2001, 06:04 PM   #3
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I noticed the exact same thing. I have only seen my actual default ad once. I am suspicious myself.
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Old 04-29-2001, 06:46 PM   #4
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Glad (?) to hear I'm not the only one suspecting something.

I wish I could track how many defaults are actually sent back to the default URL I set in banner-mania (which is Adtegrity). Though since I'm also using adtegrity on another site, I can't really track how many defaults are really sent back compared to what they say they do.

Could anybody be able to do that ?
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Old 04-29-2001, 06:49 PM   #5
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Here's a way someone can determine the answer by experiment:

Set the image and clickthrough URL to point to your own website. Then analyze the logs to see what's going on with Banner-Mania.
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Old 04-29-2001, 06:58 PM   #6
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I thought about that. Can't do that though, my logs get big way too fast. And I would be having to deal with a 200 megs file in no time.
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Old 04-29-2001, 09:07 PM   #7
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Yes More Than 70% are defaults....autohits are quite commom

search throuh the threads of geektalk and you will find more about banner-mania

But In Current Phase of Time Most Ad Companies are serving Big No Of Defaults

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Old 04-29-2001, 10:59 PM   #8
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I'm not sure Banner Mania actually undercounts. I think it's because their ad server is either down or very slow. Because of that the banner is not always loaded.

In this month I have had around 25 % of my impressions as default and had no problems with having my default banner served.

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Old 04-30-2001, 12:38 AM   #9
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Bah...

This is really sad I think I could make more by putting a cj banner where it is.

I joined and here is my stats so far:

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Old 05-02-2001, 06:11 PM   #10
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I think Banner-Mania's default tracking is busted.

Sometimes, it's showing the following image:
http://www.geocities.com/romy101/ad2.gif

which is their default default. But clicking on the image will still go to the click-to URL I set. (Uh-oh! CJ might get angry at me for this, considering it's a pay-per-click link!)
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Old 05-02-2001, 06:27 PM   #11
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My correct default banner is showing. You may want to doublecheck that they haven't misplaced your image.



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