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Old 04-29-2002, 11:25 PM   #16
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if amazon scrapped there program people would just change there links to someone else like bn.com, amazon would not want that no matter how big there brand is because if there was loads of links to bn you would build there brand, while amazons would erode, they have to stay on top and they do that via the affiliate program.
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Old 04-29-2002, 11:41 PM   #17
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Rather than scrap the affiliate program amazon would do something clever.
Like add a provision to limit comisions to only apply to cookie enabled, java powered visitors who have never visited amazon.com or seen an ad paid for by amazon.com before.
That would limit comissions somewhat as most everyone has seen their ads. They would do something like this or double up on used items or add noncommisionable links to barnes and noble before they end their affiliate program. Amazon is sneaky and not stupid.
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Old 04-30-2002, 05:44 AM   #18
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I've just got the report from amazon also. But I don't think amazon will drop the pay-per-sale program.

And my site do have the same problem. Since April, my site has got MUCH MORE orders than before, dramatically, 10 times more than in March, including DVD players, DV and other very expensive things.
I was happy for the orders. However, 40% of them were not shipped.
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Old 04-30-2002, 05:59 AM   #19
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My girlfriend's VISA card was stolen that same day Nintendo got the huge order..


...naaaaah
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Old 04-30-2002, 09:32 AM   #20
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Amazon would have a tough time if they tried to immediately scrap the affiliate program. That's because there are thousands of affiliates who would all immediate stop buying at Amazon and start promoting their competitors.

I can see them making their program more restrictive (ie You're a TV site so we'll pay you commissions on TV related books and DVDs but not on software, electronics or tools). Also it wouldn't really surprise me if they further pushed the commission payments to Amazon gift certificates. That way they get some of it back in future sales.

Still though, given all the work that Amazon seems to keep putting into the affiliate program (ie the new XML version) I don't see them dropping it anytime soon.
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Old 04-30-2002, 10:46 AM   #21
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whats the new xml version?
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Old 04-30-2002, 01:05 PM   #22
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whats the new xml version?
I believe they sent out a mail sometime back that now they provide search results and other stuff in XML data feed so that you can use the data and customize it as much as you want and fit it into your site.
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Old 04-30-2002, 01:25 PM   #23
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I believe they sent out a mail sometime back that now they provide search results and other stuff in XML data feed so that you can use the data and customize it as much as you want and fit it into your site.
pretty cool I hope they do evan more stuff liek this so I can integrate there stuff extremly well.
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Old 04-30-2002, 08:29 PM   #24
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They show no sign of killing the Affiliet program or making it harder to make money. Over the last year they've just added more and more stuff to the program to make it easior for us, from the Recommended links, to Message Board, to the new XML stuff. I don't think they would be doing this if they planned to make it harder for us to make money from geting them orders. There's other affiliet programs we could go to if they did that. Now if only they would pay us just for geting them new people registered, like they did around a year and a half ago.
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Old 04-30-2002, 08:33 PM   #25
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Nintendo I miss the Amazon new customer bonuses.
Do you think there is any truth to the guy at the amazon affilaite message board that claimed to be still getting new customer bonuses?
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Old 04-30-2002, 08:39 PM   #26
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"There's other affiliet programs we could go to if they did that."

Like?

Can't see anyone out there other than B&N who has anything like the range of Amazon.com and offers more than 5% commission.

In Europe there are several major booksellers in each market with strong affiliate programs and fair commissions, but in the most advanced Capitalitocracy there's a duolopy.

Very dangerous for affiliates. They could abuse their strangehold on the market. And the will.

In the UK, Amazon.co.uk have such a grip on the bookselling scene that they are pushing book publishers for a 50% discount on books (I'm in the industry). Book publishers have no choice but to give in, because they need Amazon more than Amazon needs them.

They'll do the same to affiliates one day, mark my words.

Already they're flooding their site with links that don't earn us commission.
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Old 03-21-2003, 10:38 PM   #27
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Any one get any more huge orders? Yesterday I got an order of 30 Yu-Gi-Oh Magic Ruler 36 Pack Bundle Boosters for $119.99 each.

($7.20 each commission= $216.00)

and 20 Yu-Gi-Oh Pharaoh Servant 20 Pack Foil Booster Bundles for $69.99 each.

$4.20 each commission= $84.00

$300.00 total commission if all this ships!!! My last huge order, the huge video game order didn't ship.
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Old 03-22-2003, 01:09 PM   #28
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I don'r promote them much, I find I make more getting my traffic to go through ebay, but two large orders over the last month.

8 copies of 1 book, they where pretty cheap books though.

then a dvd player, tng season 6 and tng season 7 which was quite nice.
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It's always nerve-wracking to get a really big order. It's reasonable to worry that it will be reversed for credit card fraud. Last year I had two orders through CJ that exceeded $500 and believe me I held my breath until they were locked. But they were good transactions thank goodness.

I suspect (and don't start pelting me with rotten fruit please) that some types of web sites are more vulnerable to credit card fraud than others. Interesting thing to think about and I've wondered if there's any data out there on the subject. Anyone know of anything like that?
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Old 03-24-2003, 12:05 AM   #30
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"There's other affiliet programs we could go to if they did that."

Like?

Can't see anyone out there other than B&N who has anything like the range of Amazon.com and offers more than 5% commission.

In Europe there are several major booksellers in each market with strong affiliate programs and fair commissions, but in the most advanced Capitalitocracy there's a duolopy.

Very dangerous for affiliates. They could abuse their strangehold on the market. And the will.

In the UK, Amazon.co.uk have such a grip on the bookselling scene that they are pushing book publishers for a 50% discount on books (I'm in the industry). Book publishers have no choice but to give in, because they need Amazon more than Amazon needs them.

They'll do the same to affiliates one day, mark my words.

Already they're flooding their site with links that don't earn us commission.
Well you all should check out Overstock.com, they are trying to outdo Amazon, and are in the process of converting commisions to a sliding scale, the more you sell, the more percentage of sales you earn, not sure when though. I believe they had the latest Harry Potter book cheaper than Amazon for preorder for awhile as an example. I don't think it's as big of a stranglehold as you think.
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