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Old 09-11-1999, 03:53 AM   #1
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Default Two Questions : Password Protection and Copyright Issue

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Let's get straight down to business .

First : Password Protection
Does anybody know how I can use the .htaccess and .htpsswd to protect my important files ? I need a step by step guide on this issue .

Second : Copyright Issue
I have just installed Links (a directory / link indexing cgi script by Gossamer Threads) into one of my directories just surfed around on the internet to look for nice templates that people have done . I came across somebody who had designed/made/copied a webpage that looked exactly like webcrawler { www.webcrawler.com ) and was distributing the template for free ! The thing I want to know is , is it legal ?!?

Mind you I got this link from the Gossamer-Threads website itself . They actually had it in their resource site ( http://www.gossamer-threads.com/scri...nks/Templates/ ). The resource page also has Snap.com and Yahoo.com look-alike templates and some of it are even being sold for cash !

The thing I am worried about is if I use these scripts , Yahoo/Snap/Webcrawler can take some form of legal action against me . I was especially concerned when I see Ryan Adams next door putting on his battlegear to fight copycat sites .

I can summarize my query about copyright in one sentence :

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Is it ok to have a similar looking site but with content that is totally different ?
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Old 09-12-1999, 04:35 AM   #2
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I have gone through the pages at hypermart to try and figure out how to use the .htaccess and the .htpasswd files to password protect one my directories . I have uploaded these files but I still don't get any pop-up boxes requiring me to enter my protected directory .

I am going to publish a rough version of my htaccess file here for your perusal
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AuthName My Links Amin Area
AuthType Basic
AuthUserFile /data1/hypermart.net/username/links/cgi-bin/admin/.htpasswd
require valid-user
, where 'username' is my hypermart username .

Then using notepad again I create a htpasswd file . I upload it in to the admin directory as instructed but still nothing happens !

The following is how I phrased my htpasswd file
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zadmin:CdZLCT7K
Still nothing happens !! I can't seem to be able to protect my directory !! Anybody got any ideas where I went wrong ???

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Old 09-12-1999, 04:49 AM   #3
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Hey Heartz,

I followed these directions from my provider to set it up for me.

http://www.support.pair.com/tutorials/pwordprotect.html

It should all be the same.

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Old 09-12-1999, 01:04 PM   #4
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Tried many things ( Thanks Arn for you reference page ) and still can't get the password protection to work! Maybe it has got something to do with permissions . I noticed that the moment I uploaded it the file was set to 644 is this what it is supposed to be ?? Somebody who knows about these things please help !

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Old 09-12-1999, 01:52 PM   #5
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The host which holds 2 of my sites has quite nice instructions at http://backoffice.magic-moments.com/htaccess.html

644 = following permissions
6 = Read/Write = owner
4 = Read = group
4 = Read = anybody

what is exactly the problem you're having ?

It's a bit difficult for me to type as I'm doing a **very** long FTP

if you created the file in DOS/Windows - you might want to check your transfering the file to your server in ASCII mode.

it's a long time since i did this (i now use NT & IIS for my own servers, so I set directory permissions differently), but i will try and help if you give me a hint where you u need. Check the ascii thing first.

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Old 09-13-1999, 09:39 PM   #6
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RE:Is it ok to have a similar looking site but with content that is totally different ?

Whether you are talking about gossamer-threads or hyperseek, you will for the most part have similar looking sites with different content. I don't see a copyright issue here. Keep in mind a copyright protects exact words, not abstract ideas or visions. Hence I can copy the general "look and feel" of a site without really violating any copyright laws.

Here again this is a UBB forum, many forums have the same "look and feel" and there are a few webmaster forums using UBB I'm sure. This page, as you see it here, can be someone's property. That's not to say someone can't use UBB software to set up a webmasters forum. Make sense?


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Old 09-14-1999, 02:06 PM   #7
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Let me see if I get your point correct Questy.

Well what you are essentially saying is that if it looks the same but with different content ---> the copywrite rules don't apply. Is that right ?

Well then let's say that if tommorow I copy Clickquick.com and create the exact design with the same colours and all and I call it Goodaffliateprograms.com and give totally different reviews and stuff that it is ok ? Ryan from Clickquick can't essentially do anything to me ??

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I forgot to post this earlier but if anybody has any experience with hypermart's htaccess procedures , please feel free to email me at my address or icq me at 12714821 . Thanks

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Old 09-14-1999, 03:31 PM   #9
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RE:A confused soul is a dangerous soul

How close to "cheating" can I get without it really becoming cheating? At what point is that imaginary line crossed?

I think your question has become dangerously close to crossing the line where it is no longer a technical question, but a legal question.
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Actually Questy , I don't think I am crossing into legalities here . The point that I saw people offering web-page lookalikes with almost the same interface and charging cash for it utterly shocked me .

I just wanted to know how far do copyright laws protect us in this sense.

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Old 09-16-1999, 06:46 PM   #12
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RE: I don't think I am crossing into legalities here

Heartz ol' buddy, you are drifting a bit here into the legalities side, and for the record, discussions like this are very often resolved by lawyers.

Let me give this issue some thought and start a new thread at the "business issues" forum next door. OK?
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