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Old 12-10-2003, 01:42 PM   #1
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Default Interested in buying sites with PageRank 6, 7 or higher.

Hi,

I'm interested in buying live sites with Google PageRank of 6, 7 or higher.

I'll pay up to $2000 for a PR7 site.

Thanks!

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Old 12-10-2003, 02:46 PM   #2
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Hi fello


Welcome to the "Village" and best of luck

I hope you don't mind a few thoughts about your offer. Designed to help you and our members.

Buying a site of any flavor using PR as the primary criteria as per your post is not recomended. Why?

PR is but one of many considerations in rankings with G
PR often goes down and up so you have no guarantees for a given number
PR can be manipulated using procedures that G does not like and this sometimes results in no PR
PR should always be viewed as a relatively minor consideration and a natural result of many other more important factors
Talk on other Forums and here indicates that G either has or will recalculate the PR after a site changes hands and they already have the Whois data which they will and have fetched

NOTE: search our Forums and you will see quite a few threads on PageRank and such.

Having said this perhaps you can be a bit more specific:

What types of Mainstream sites (no porn here please
Traffic levels
Income levels

Good luck and HTH

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Old 12-10-2003, 03:09 PM   #3
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Be careful doing this. Some sites may have high PR because the owner put links to it on one or two high PR sites. If you buy the site and then the owner pulls the high PR links you will be left with a worthless site.
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Old 12-10-2003, 03:10 PM   #4
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Thanks Steve for your input.

Though, that's still what I'm looking to buy now.


P.S.
You wrote: >> Talk on other Forums and here indicates that G either has or will recalculate the PR after a site changes hands and they already have the Whois data which they will and have fetched <<

That's new to me. Are you sure if I just change the WHOIS info for my own site Google will drop the page rank?
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Old 12-10-2003, 03:59 PM   #5
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First a disclaimer

I'm not responsible for this sale/purchase and neither is my Company. You should hire an attorney and full time SEO/SEM to advise you on your proposed plan. You should not do this untill you have contacted Google, told them exactly what you wish to do, and obtained their detailed answer, clarification, and approval.

G takes a rather dim view of selling PR. They have been to court and won. See:

http://gooogle.searchking.com/

http://www.searchenginewatch.com/ser...le.php/2165111

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...lling+pagerank

I said "recalculate the PR" and their is a world of difference with very very serious implications. I never said "drop"

I found one thread and I bet we have others:

http://www.geekvillage.com/forums/sh...threadid=22372

Post a new topic in our Google Forum which does not contain your purchase offer but does ask about purchasing a site using PR as the primary criteria and I'm sure one of our other SEO folks will pop in to help.

Good luck

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Old 12-10-2003, 08:46 PM   #6
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You wrote: >> Talk on other Forums and here indicates that G either has or will recalculate the PR after a site changes hands and they already have the Whois data which they will and have fetched <<

That's new to me. Are you sure if I just change the WHOIS info for my own site Google will drop the page rank?
Actually, that only applies to domains that have expired first, then picked up by a new owner after its expiration. In this case Google resets the PR once it does expire. However, if you're buying an existing site, the PR will remain even if you simply update the whois info to your own. Otherwise everyone would be scared of making changes to the whois.
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Old 12-11-2003, 09:38 PM   #7
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There are numberous ways to trick search engines
and the PR values of web sites. And yes, you can
transfer the PR value so long as the site maintains.

But as Steve pointed out, Google takes a dim view of
the abuse of it's PR. That in itself should tell you not
to actively seek PR value web sites to purchase.

Besides, PR is more fun when you get it yourself
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Old 12-12-2003, 12:25 AM   #8
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There is a big difference between selling PR as in the searchking case and buying a site that has high PR.

I don't see how Google would care or that it's any of their business if somebody buys a website & prefers to buy sites with high PR

Changing Whois data will not impact a site's PR

I believe in the original post - he just said he wanted to buy sites with high PR.

Having said - that - buying sites based just on PR is a waste of time - but it's a free country.
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Old 12-12-2003, 12:08 PM   #9
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Hi DrewM,
Welcome to GeekVillage!

You are absolutely right.
Google may not care, but may care also, who knows.
But they have made it public knowledge that they
don't like abuse of their PR system. If everyone started
buying for the PR value in itself, they may do something,
who knows.

But you brought out the main point being that is could
be a waste buying a web site on PR value alone.
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Old 12-12-2003, 11:20 PM   #10
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Buying and selling of domains based on PR issues is a big business, I know many people who have aquired sites and redirected their page rank for other uses.

Although google may claim to drop your pagerank after your domain expires, first of al it does not happen, I have purchased many expired domains with no change in PR (Other than normal changes from dropped/added backlinks, etc). Secondly, its not possible for google to reset it. Google can place a penalty on your PR, but that will effect legitimate development later on. From a technical standpoint theres no way they can reset someones PageRank and have the new owner have a fresh start. During the next backlink update the old incoming links will pas on their PR and the pages PR will revert back to its old level.
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Old 12-14-2003, 01:08 AM   #11
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Google ranks sites based on their "value" - PR being one element in the equation that aims to determine value vs search phrase

Who owns the site is irrelevent to Google.
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Old 12-23-2003, 01:00 PM   #12
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I think you are within your rights to specify a site with a high PR. Just like saying "I'd like a site which has such-and-such a ranking in Alexa".

> I'll pay up to $2000 for a PR7 site

Don't think I'd sell a PR7 site for such a small amount. Maybe it's possible to get such a high PR with minimal work, but mine have taken years of blood, sweat and tears

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Old 12-23-2003, 06:12 PM   #13
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PR 7 is VERY VERY VERY hard to get, and I wouldn't sell mine if I had one for 2 grand. A site like that will most likely pull in big bucks.

One of my more popular sites, 007arcadegames.com, you can visit it via the link in my sig, has a PR of 4 right now, but I just got 6 absolutely huge free online game sites to link me yesterday, I am very curious to see how this effects my PR in the next update.

However, all these 6 new huge sites I got linking me, they all have 4,5,6 PR, I have not seen a real free online games website that has PR of 7. I don't know how hard it is to get 7 but it must be really hard, these sites I affiliated with have alexa ranking like 5,000-10,000.
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Old 12-23-2003, 08:59 PM   #14
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Hey,

If the guy wants to buy a pr 7 site...let him. He has every right too. Personally , I currently own 50 plus sites and none of them have a pr7. The two pr7 sites I did have however, I sold for big bucks. Both of these were 3+ years old, with tens of thousands of links, very tough to come by. Good luck in your search!

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Old 12-24-2003, 01:03 PM   #15
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exactly, if that is what he wants then let him.
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