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Old 05-05-2001, 10:58 AM   #61
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Noticed that many of the people - not all, but many - boasting about earning loads of money have got seedy sites. It's far more difficult to earn money from quality sites than having sites promoting gambling and porn...

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Old 05-05-2001, 10:59 AM   #62
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true dat...
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Old 05-06-2001, 07:23 AM   #63
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What has the Internet done for me, thatís a great question and hereís my Internet life history. Hehe

I was injured in a car accident in 1994 that left me a quadriplegic, when I finally got out of the hospital and through rehab it was August 1995. September 1 st I bought my first computer and signed up for AOL, donít flame me I didnít know any better, but I have learned. LOL In mid 1996 I changed to a regular ISP and began learning what the Internet was all about, it was incredible.

Jump forward to 1999, I designed my first site:

The site was pretty good and the focus was more on helping people and being honest then ever about making money.
That site has brought me some great friends, contacts, and taught me even more about the Internet; what to do and not to do on the net. Yep I was a little naÔve at times and was taken advantage of, but you know the saying, ďwhat doesnít kill you makes you strongerĒ, and as you can see I am not dead. LOL
I have learned a lot about promoting web sites and search engines so I am in the process of doing a site to help others with those topics. I really like to help people and want to teach people that with some work they can save their money and do all the promoting themselves. You know the saying; ďGive a person a fish, feed him for a day, Teach a person to fish and feed him for lifeĒ.
Man am I being philosophical today. LOL

To finally answer the question, What has the Internet done for me?

Brought me some great friends and contacts
Taught me a lot
Helped me travel around the world and learn different cultures without ever leaving my house.
It helps me do the one thing I really enjoy, and thatís helping others with what I have learned.
On the bottom of the list and something thatís not as important than helping others, I have made some money.

There was a question a while back where someone asked what is more important, having a quality site that helps people or making money. I am in it for helping.

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Old 05-06-2001, 08:18 AM   #64
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I disagree with the association of gambling as necessarily seedy. Times are tough, and it seems that the same basic types of ads are available now: gambling, credit cards, sweepstakes, and the like. If wanting to survive is seedy, then I agree with you fully. Granted, I would never go so far as to promote porn, racism, hatred, spam, warez, etc., and I know that many of those here would not either, as that's just reaching too far. However, if you look at all the ad networks on the web today, many of them have specific clauses saying "Site may not contain or link to sites that contain gambling." Meanwhile, they themselves are selling gambling ads for sites like Gambling.com.au (for example). Yet they, too, would never sell porn ads. So they have the same basic philosophy. Furthermore, if you actually look at most of the sites you've complained about, you will see that nowhere on those sites do they mention gambling or porn.

I know that for me, I did block gambling ads and didn't bother with them until about a month ago, and that will happen again when the market recovers. So the amount of money that has been made from those types of ads is so minimal and brief that it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. And I'm positive that's how it is for many of the others involved in this topic. The money we're talking about is pre-gambling/porn for the most part, and there's generally a degree of quality involved, too. Granted, at this time, I don't really care much about money, but that's not to say I'll turn my nose up at it either.

Similarly as I don't feel ill will against those who promote gambling, I don't feel ill will against you for promoting a banner exchange that contained a banner to a site that linked to adult material.

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Old 05-06-2001, 09:09 AM   #65
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Old 05-24-2001, 09:48 PM   #66
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Alright, since we're having an "I'm older than you are" contest, I'm 53. Can anyone beat that? I'm a high school teacher by day and internet entrepreneur by night.

I've been using and teaching with computers for about 20 years, and the internet has opened up a wonderful universe for me and my students. My entertainment site has done well for me and provided me with the possiblility of an earlier retirement.

I appreciate the advice and help I get on these threads from you young ones (defined as anyone under 40).
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Old 05-25-2001, 02:37 AM   #67

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CCO, you beat me by just a tad in the age stakes and the majority in this thread by years in internet knowhow.

My first introduction to computers was around 1995 with a Commodore 64 http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif After years of being a Mum, I entered the workforce in an office sitution and was confronted with 'real computers' - wasn't very long before I was hooked and connected to the net.

I then did 2 years full time computer training and got a few certificates. I started my websites around 3 years ago - the advertising came by accident when I was approached by a company (that I will not name) to move my site to their site. Took about 2 months before they convinced me, but I agreed in the end. The first month I made $USD800 second $400, 3rd 200, need I go on?

In the meantime I discovered MailBits...I was living very comfortably from that income (certainly not to the standard most of you guys make, but I have never been comfortable with tonnes of money) then they stopped paying overseas affiliates.

Was also with a much maligned CPM program for some time and made a *bit* from them. But they cancelled my account 'just like that', when I emailed them as to why, they said that I had a banner on some adult content page (risque joke) and that they had emailed me to remove it. I asked where they sent the email? It was to my previous email address!! Twice I had asked them to update my email address.

So anyway, since then I have been wondering about where to make some money and reading this forum since May 19 (re Mailbits) I am starting to wonder if there are any paying programs left :-)


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Old 05-25-2001, 05:25 AM   #68
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Hi all, great thread...

I started messing with some HTML design in 1998 having been a Clipper/VB programmer for several years prior to that . Set up a site for my home town (www.keynsham.co.uk) which raised enough interest to get me a some Web design projects for some local businesses.

Only in the last 6 months have I started to put in some serious effort (and hours !) to see if I can really make some money off my own websites.

I've started with a number of celeb sites - the plan is, as soon as I match my day job income I'll start working full time on some more serious projects (Programming/VB sites for example). Things are going pretty well - even given the lean times on the Net at the moment. If things continue their current trend my web income should match the day job income by the end of this year.

To answer the question at the top of the thread - what has the Internet done for me.

Kept me busy - can't remember the last time I was sat at home and was bored...

BTW I'm 34.

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:::I just thought it would be interesting to find out what building websites/affiliate programs has done for them...

During the Internet Gold Rush of 2000, it made me over 10 times the $$$$ that I made at my 'real' job. In fact, during the second half of last year, 100% of my 'real' job income went to an IRA for retirment. During the 2001 Internet depression, it still makes me over twice the $$$ than I make at my 'real' job (working at a geology lab). This year 50% of my 'real' job income goes to an IRA. That's $11,000 put into retirement in one year, and because I'm just 24, with in a year I'll have enough saved up for retirement that I won't even have to worry about retirement!!!

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Old 07-14-2001, 09:44 PM   #70
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Hi Guys,
Im glad you guys are making the money. As for me, I do clear about 2500-3000 per month but my overhead is about 1350 per month. I also invest back every penny I have left on my website. I originally thought that running everything from webserver to internet connections were the way to go. Unfortunatly, all that money spent and ended up on a dedicated instead. )C=
Any suggestion on how I can increase my revenue?
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Old 07-15-2001, 01:24 AM   #71
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Um, in answer to the Q,, ...
I hired my first 233 in Feb`99 after spending 5 odd years living on the street in the UK selling the Big Issue with All the street related problems/fun that accompany that particular job/lifestyle.
Someone gave me Dreamweaver 2, while I was still selling the Issue and something "clicked" ( heh -), sort of.
I managed to pop into and blag Radio Rentals into doing the decent thing ref a pc.
It`s been a long hard & fine struggle and there is much much much more still to do & so much more to learn, (in fact any xml feed expert out there might like to get hold of me!) -
But, my lifestyle is healthy and I`m able to be creative or not, or whatever I want.

I`d really have to say -
"sod the money www" just
"very many thanks for my life back"
And at 42, I can tell you it`s been a pleasure.
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Old 07-15-2001, 04:26 PM   #72
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Most importantly, I met my husband on-line. We met in the trivia chat room at prodigy.com. (Aww...now I'm blushing.)

I've made some good friends through my online volunteer jobs. Some of the finest people I've never had the pleasure of meeting, to paraphrase an old saw. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

And, my web sites are a creative outlet that makes me feel more 'rounded'. I've spent most of my working career as a professional geek. I get a good bit of positive feedback as a result of sharing my very silly side through the internet. I doubt most of the people I've worked with over the years ever *knew* I have a silly side.

The negatives? Well, I don't keep house as carefully as I used to and the garden occasionally gets overgrown with weeds before I notice. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Rhea, nice name mother earth
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Old 07-15-2001, 11:56 PM   #74
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This is nice!

I, actually, designed a program for say Ďrebelí kids [and read any age] that is trying to do a similar thing. My initial idea: the Internet is a big melting pot where everybody has a chance. No hidden demons, no country bounds, no political wisdom, no religion constrains and .. no wives :**

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