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Old 06-09-2005, 08:36 PM   #16
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Sorry if I sounded sceptical, just that a lot of people are out there ****ming these days. Anyway, I'll bid $1850.
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Old 06-09-2005, 08:56 PM   #17
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I will go $1900
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Old 06-09-2005, 08:59 PM   #18
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Dragonhawk:

No problem, I do understand that it's a large investment and I can't blame anybody for wanting to be sure about it. Please check your private messages here at geekvillage if you haven't, because I have previously sent you log in information for stats and sponsors. Or, if you'd like, email me at webmaster@foxxweb.com and I will resend.


trabaho:

Last summer traffic was up at all my sites, as I was working full time on them + had an additional part timer working for me. The 3rd party stats program I use (addfreestats) doesn't show referrer information for last year, and I don't recall exactly if it was just traffic up in general or from a specific source. I do cross promote my sites (more than I should), so if my larger sites increase I usually get extra on all my others as a bonus.

Sorry I can't be more specific, but I honestly just wasn't paying that close attention to mindfake at the time. Obviously, now that I have nobody working for me and I have to have a part time job myself, I realize that I probably should have paid a bit more attention
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:51 PM   #19
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I'll happily bid $1950.
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:05 PM   #20
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Thanks everyone for your interest, bidding is now over, I'm just waiting to hear from the winner, Creabiz...

If I don't hear from him by end of day Sat. I will contact one of the previous bidders.
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Old 06-10-2005, 10:44 PM   #21
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Just let me know how to pay. I will email you.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:39 AM   #22
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Site sold!

Thanks everyone for your interest.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:51 PM   #23
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Congratulations warlock667!

I know that this site generated a great deal of interest both before and after the closing bell and I regret that the trading window was cut so short in this case.

Nevertheless, it's always fantastic to see a genuine, established, quality site for sale on this BB and to see how much more attention these attract than those who post cookie-cutter sites or properties full of copyrighted material in the mistaken notion that doing so will be their ticket to riches.

If you do have any other similarly strong web properties that you might consider selling in the future, we do wholeheartedly invite you to do so through Geek/Talk.

Again, congratulations on a swift and successful sale.
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Old 06-12-2005, 12:43 PM   #24
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do you not think that possibly many of the optical illusion images may be the property of others, and therefore constitute copyrighted materials?

I am not saying this as a negtaive, as I believe many online images, videos etc should and are often classed as being in the public domain. I am only against saleable products being ripped off, such as mp3s, feature films etc.
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Old 06-12-2005, 10:32 PM   #25
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Great question, Strive.

It is for this reason that we not only expect, but demand sellers to post details regarding the copyright status of the work contained on a site. On most sites, the delineation is clear and the sale of sites that are clearly trying to sell content illegally are frequently shut down on this board by Team Geek or our members.

We take the issue of copyright very seriously as a community, particularly in regards to discussions about monetizing or selling sites that contain unlicensed material, as you've probably seen in recent threads such as:
http://www.geekvillage.com/forums/sh...threadid=27808
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http://www.geekvillage.com/forums/sh...threadid=26911

In this particular case, there are some grey areas. Some of the illusion images were created by the site seller, while others were sourced from a variety of areas. Presumably, some of these would have been circulating since the 1800s or before, in which case copyrights would likely have lapsed, while some of the more recent works may - in fact - be in breach.

I can't speak for the successful buyer, but if I had bid a little earlier and won the auction, I would have set about verifying ownership and copyright status immediately, with a view to remove or license those illusions that were in doubt. I hope that the buyer will do the same, and similarly hope that most of the material used is these days free from copyright to make this process less arduous and expensive.

Again, great question. Please feel free to observe the comments that we make as a community when people are caught trying to palm off someone else's photographs, videos, templates, audio or software as their own. You'll find, I'm sure, that our position gels closely with your own.
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Old 06-17-2005, 12:20 PM   #26
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Thanks very much for the thorough explanation. I read up on the other threads you suggested, and feel I've gained a much clearer understanding of how copyright issues are viewed around here.

I think my own views differs slightly in that I don't think sites such as ebaumsworld are doing alot of harm. Such sites are probably breaking copyright laws, but I have no issue with sites displaying funny videos, pictures, optical illusions etc as long as they are not ripping off someones product that would've otherwise been sold (such as an entire DVD or an mp3 single).
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