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Old 03-01-2003, 01:28 PM   #1
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Question The Google Dance Starts When?

My guess: 3/3/03

Note: I am not referring to "fresh bot/freshie" which visits many sites every single day and uses:


crawler11 64.68.82.x

and crawler10 or crawler12




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Ooh! Are we having a lottery?

So I take it Google didn't jig this past week?
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:o I take it Google didn't jig this past week?

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, nope, not yet!!!! WAH!!! I want a dance!!!! And no, I'm not talking about this kind of dance!! Just before midnight tonight!! I know, I'll be wrong a second time!!!

The GoogleGuy is making us think it will be Monday.
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Who's the GoogleGuy and how do I find him? If it involves repeating a mantra or walking backward up a mountain...count me in!

Well, if we're having a lottery on when Google will next take a turn on the dance floor...I pick Tuesday.

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This is him. Twice he's said to take a few days off. He said that on the 26th, and then on the 28th!!!
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I'm going to be optimistic and hope in about 28 hours or so (Sunday going into Monday morning). I'm hoping for good things this update.
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I've been hungry for the dance to see what deleting the session id part of the URL did with my vBulletin board, besides adding 55 or so links from the freshbot!!! Got over 1,535 pages visited by the deepcrawl!! Then at the end of this month I'll be hungry to see what the HTML trick does!!!
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It's twitching!

http://google.fergusons.dk for "Dean Martin"
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Due to fresh bots it is better to compare something with large stable results i.e. the number of sites linking to yahoo.

http://google.fergusons.dk/?q=link%3...se+Google+Tool

There still shows no sign of change yet.

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But Dean Martin is HUGE! Huger than Yahoo, maybe even huger than Google.

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But Dean Martin is HUGE! Huger than Yahoo, maybe even huger than Google
There is much argument about this.

I believe the link count to a site is not effected by the fresh bot. The fresh bot can temporally add new pages to googles search results, but if you did a search for pages linking to these new pages the fresh bot found, the result would be zero, even though these pages are temporally added to Google.

i.e.

fresh bot visits www.mysite1.com and finds www.mysite2.com, which is a brand new site. Soon after www.mysite2.com is temporally index in Google, but if you check google for the links to www.mysite2.com it would return zero (the query "link:www.mysite2.com").

I think this is why you can only tell when the dance starts by checking www.google.com and www2.google.com, etc for "link:www.largesite.com" and not just "largesite"

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Listen to kryton as the lad speaks with authority and BTW, we all love, cherish, adore, worship, and to "Dino"

Back to the topic and excuse me:

Just install the following and from what I have heard it will even email you when the "dance" starts:

http://www.googlestats.com/english/

I plan to install it next week and then raise my rates

NO DANCE yet from what I can see. Literally, thousands of SEO geeks waiting, testing, talking, monitoring, and refreshing for the first sign of Dr. Deep Crawl.

Freshie is still around. Slurping like mad, which I can only assume is a good thing. If you don't see "freshie" it might be time to introduce yourself and develop a lasting relationship with this nice crawler.


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Thanks for the explanation, Adam.

Guess I'm just not cut out to be a Google prognosticator. I'm too likely to jump the starting gun.
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Can someone please explain to me "the dance" In nice plain Sesame Street language please

Whoa....44 guests online at present! *Goes to see what they are looking at*

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Yes

Google behaves strangely at this time of the month.

For example

This search:

www.lmu.ac.uk/ces/cs/enghi.htm

Says there is no information about the url, but this one:

"+www.lmu.ac.uk/ces/cs/enghi.htm"

(search for "contains the term") brings back the result of the above URL (the one which, alledgedly, google knows nothing about).

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