Future Games Network Status

**Czar** · 01-11-2002, 09:04 AM

Does anyone here have any recent experience dealing with the presumably-still-alive ad representation program offered by Future Games Network?:
http://www.fgn.com/fgn.info?Publishers

Cybereps seems to be enduring the ad slowdown better than most, so I'm wondering whether or not FGN has been able to attract enough attention to serve premium gaming sites better than UGO, Gorilla Nation, etc...

Any info would be much appreciated.

SSacobie · 01-11-2002, 09:53 AM

Good old FGN. It's too bad Listbot shutdown. There were some very interesting conversations on it back when Pesach was still in control (i.e. 9 cents CPM in January, 2000). In the past, Cybereps did little actual ad selling for FGN but just resold through lesser networks (as discussed here... just ignore anything semi-positive I said about L90

), which I always found kind of odd since Cybereps was supposed to be a top tier rep, and/or posted lots of house ads. I haven't heard anything about them recently, though.

**Czar** · 01-11-2002, 10:18 AM

Thanks muchly for the reminder. That thread has brought back a few memories...

My suspicions were that the program would be dead by now, given that it wasn't well managed way back when, which is why I was so surprised to find that the pitch site remained live during my recent bookmark spring-clean.

It seems that gaming sites are doomed to running the ad sales side of the biz independently until a new player emerges to serve this out-of-favor market.

If anyone here has had a more positive or recent experience with the group, please speak now or forever keep your peace.

Furton · 01-11-2002, 03:57 PM

I remember around 5months ago a friend of mine was running their banners and server around 10k a day, he usually got around $80 a month, which isn't too bad.

Jeff Booth · 01-11-2002, 04:00 PM

Don't go with FGN, I'm fairly sure they are dead by now.

Our contract with them expired, but in the last 5 months they had not served 1 paid add, as well as neglected to pay us for 2 previous months.

Not only that they have lost a majority of their publishers, as well as let go most of the FGN staff.

Best to stay away, youll get caught up in a long contract and get paid next to nothing.

Darkness · 01-12-2002, 12:01 AM

I made quite a bit with fgn in the good days, over $1800 one month and that was for a site doing just 300,000 pv a month

Though I do remember that I always wanted to get into UGO who were paying a guaranteed $3cpm at the time.

Jeff is right I haven't seen a paid ad on there for months, I am surprised the homepage is still running to be honest..

Gogi · 01-12-2002, 03:47 AM

Maybe everything is not so bad - I've seen a massive Philips PC speakers campaign that was run throgh FGN sites.

Jeff Booth · 01-12-2002, 04:52 PM

Oh everything 'is' so bad. I bet the only reason they had those philips ads on FGN was as a 'bonus' for philips buying advertising on one of their other properties.. It sure as hell wouldnt surprise me if they used FGN to entise an advertiser with free impressions, it wouldnt be the first time they have run a campaign from a large company for FREE!

(Anyone from FGN remember when they ran millions of netscape impressions, and we got paid for 0?).

Either way FGN has little to no staff, little to no support, their portal page isn't even updated anymore (last updated was late October)...

PaulT · 01-13-2002, 09:10 AM

FGN kinda went down with Daily Radar, ever since FGN's launch, Daily Radar propped it up. When Daily Radar went FGN tried to go it alone, but it seems to be pratically dead now!

Jeff Booth · 01-13-2002, 04:49 PM

Daily Radar was with UGO, not FGN, if I am mistaken.

The biggest site FGN ever had was 3dfiles.com, which has since ceased to exist after being bought by zdnet or cnet (i forget which).

PaulT · 01-14-2002, 12:47 PM

Actually it seems we are both mistaken

I am getting mixed up with Future Publishing's Games Network (publishes mags such as PC-Gamer in the UK etc). They had (have, even) a gaming network, but it's kinda dead now that Daily Radar is gone.

Ignore my original post then

Jeff Booth · 01-14-2002, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PaulT
Actually it seems we are both mistaken

I am getting mixed up with Future Publishing's Games Network (publishes mags such as PC-Gamer in the UK etc). They had (have, even) a gaming network, but it's kinda dead now that Daily Radar is gone.

Ignore my original post then

Daily Radar, the US company at least, was running UGO ad's however =) I assumed that was what you were talking about.

01-11-2002, 09:04 AM	#1
Czar Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Posts: 9,466	Future Games Network Status Does anyone here have any recent experience dealing with the presumably-still-alive ad representation program offered by Future Games Network?: http://www.fgn.com/fgn.info?Publishers Cybereps seems to be enduring the ad slowdown better than most, so I'm wondering whether or not FGN has been able to attract enough attention to serve premium gaming sites better than UGO, Gorilla Nation, etc... Any info would be much appreciated. __________________ Czar Follow Geek/Talk's Twitter Feed to stay up to date with new discussion threads and online ad industry highlights. Important GeekVillage Links: Home \| Rules \| Posting Guide \| Report Trouble \| Feedback \| Advertise on GV

01-11-2002, 10:18 AM	#3
Czar Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia Posts: 9,466	Thanks muchly for the reminder. That thread has brought back a few memories... My suspicions were that the program would be dead by now, given that it wasn't well managed way back when, which is why I was so surprised to find that the pitch site remained live during my recent bookmark spring-clean. It seems that gaming sites are doomed to running the ad sales side of the biz independently until a new player emerges to serve this out-of-favor market. If anyone here has had a more positive or recent experience with the group, please speak now or forever keep your peace. __________________ Czar Follow Geek/Talk's Twitter Feed to stay up to date with new discussion threads and online ad industry highlights. Important GeekVillage Links: Home \| Rules \| Posting Guide \| Report Trouble \| Feedback \| Advertise on GV

01-12-2002, 12:01 AM	#6
Darkness Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 15	I made quite a bit with fgn in the good days, over $1800 one month and that was for a site doing just 300,000 pv a month Though I do remember that I always wanted to get into UGO who were paying a guaranteed $3cpm at the time. Jeff is right I haven't seen a paid ad on there for months, I am surprised the homepage is still running to be honest.. Last edited by Darkness; 01-12-2002 at 12:05 AM.

01-13-2002, 09:10 AM	#9
PaulT Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 377	FGN kinda went down with Daily Radar, ever since FGN's launch, Daily Radar propped it up. When Daily Radar went FGN tried to go it alone, but it seems to be pratically dead now! Last edited by PaulT; 01-13-2002 at 12:25 PM.

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01-11-2002, 09:53 AM	#2
SSacobie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Silver City, NM, US Posts: 487	Good old FGN. It's too bad Listbot shutdown. There were some very interesting conversations on it back when Pesach was still in control (i.e. 9 cents CPM in January, 2000). In the past, Cybereps did little actual ad selling for FGN but just resold through lesser networks (as discussed here... just ignore anything semi-positive I said about L90 ), which I always found kind of odd since Cybereps was supposed to be a top tier rep, and/or posted lots of house ads. I haven't heard anything about them recently, though.

01-11-2002, 03:57 PM	#4
Furton Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 731	I remember around 5months ago a friend of mine was running their banners and server around 10k a day, he usually got around $80 a month, which isn't too bad.

01-11-2002, 04:00 PM	#5
Jeff Booth Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Eaton, CO, USA Posts: 83	Don't go with FGN, I'm fairly sure they are dead by now. Our contract with them expired, but in the last 5 months they had not served 1 paid add, as well as neglected to pay us for 2 previous months. Not only that they have lost a majority of their publishers, as well as let go most of the FGN staff. Best to stay away, youll get caught up in a long contract and get paid next to nothing.

01-12-2002, 03:47 AM	#7
Gogi Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: St.-Petersburg, Russia Posts: 111	Maybe everything is not so bad - I've seen a massive Philips PC speakers campaign that was run throgh FGN sites.

01-12-2002, 04:52 PM	#8
Jeff Booth Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Eaton, CO, USA Posts: 83	Oh everything 'is' so bad. I bet the only reason they had those philips ads on FGN was as a 'bonus' for philips buying advertising on one of their other properties.. It sure as hell wouldnt surprise me if they used FGN to entise an advertiser with free impressions, it wouldnt be the first time they have run a campaign from a large company for FREE! (Anyone from FGN remember when they ran millions of netscape impressions, and we got paid for 0?). Either way FGN has little to no staff, little to no support, their portal page isn't even updated anymore (last updated was late October)...

01-13-2002, 04:49 PM	#10
Jeff Booth Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Eaton, CO, USA Posts: 83	Daily Radar was with UGO, not FGN, if I am mistaken. The biggest site FGN ever had was 3dfiles.com, which has since ceased to exist after being bought by zdnet or cnet (i forget which).

01-14-2002, 12:47 PM	#11
PaulT Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 377	Actually it seems we are both mistaken I am getting mixed up with Future Publishing's Games Network (publishes mags such as PC-Gamer in the UK etc). They had (have, even) a gaming network, but it's kinda dead now that Daily Radar is gone. Ignore my original post then

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