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Old 04-24-2001, 04:12 PM   #1
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Unhappy Please help me find a good host, and fast!

Ok, before I get yelled at for not thinking ahead, let me mention I am a total newbie to running a popular site. I've been running little sites as a hobby for about 3 years, but nothing that got this big. Because of that, I never really paid attention to my bandwidth usage.

Stupid me.

I was about to sign up with WorldZonePro, but for their basic signup they only give you 4gigs. I just found out I use 10 gigs! I just got a job and am a fulltime student, so cash doesn't exist for me...

Anyways, if you could recommend a good host, I would be really happy http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

Your budget: $10-$20 a month
Storage required: at least 150 megs, but with the option to upgrade (cheaply. I liked how WZP's space upgrade was a one time fee, but if thats not available thats ok)
Bandwidth required: I currently use 10gig, and I can see how this can increase. Maybe around 20gigs or more to be safe.
Do you need Telnet access: No
Do you need mySQL: No
Do you need php: Not now, but it would be nice.
Do you need NT hosting: No
Do you need CGI/Perl: Yes, very much so.
Special requirements: I don't know if all hosts have this (Like I said, I don't know much about this), but I need ftp access, multiple pop3 accounts (Just for my admins), and of course SSI.

Something else I should note...my site uses UBB, and it's pretty popular. I don't know if thats of any importance or not, just thought I'd tell you.

I was shooting for a 5/1/01 relaunch of my site using my new domain, so I would like to keep get signed up around then. If not, thats fine I guess.

Thanks a lot for any help. I'm going to be looking around myself, but you guys know a lot more places then me, so I thought I'd ask you too http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

EDIT: I just found A+ Hosting, and their Basic II service looks good. Anybody use them, think their good/bad?

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Old 04-24-2001, 07:44 PM   #2
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http://www.planetz.net/hosting/

Cheap and affoardable.

I have 2 co-locations there. One Windows NT and one FreeBSD.

They are really good guys.
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Old 04-24-2001, 11:23 PM   #3
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a reliable one that provide large amount of bandwidth would be tera-byte.com. their plan 5 best offers:

yearly price : $214.99 (monthly is $19.95)
storage : 150
bandwidth : 30GB
pop3 : 150
php/mysql/cgi/ssi: yes

however, if the cost is an issue, you can also consider spaceports.com which is owned by tera-byte as well. they give you lots of space and up to 20GB bandwidth for free and you can place their banner anywhere on the top of the page you like.

although idont have any experience aplushosting.com, i have heard lots of good stuff about aplushosting.com and they reply all my mails very fast ... definitely good support http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

about UBB ... if it uses too much CPU resources, the hosting company might terminate your account or force you to go for dedicated server. thus i think you better email the hosting company and tell them your situation and see what they say.


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Old 04-24-2001, 11:52 PM   #4
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kerplunk and notibrian: They look nice, just not the amount of space I'm looking for. I'll keep them in mind for some other projects I'll think of http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

notibrian: Wow, your right. I emailed them, went to class, came back and my email was answered! Havent seen tech support like that in a while (Except from WZpro). I emailed them about my current situation and hope they have good news http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

Now I'll just need to get some kind of income from my site in order to pay for this http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Old 04-25-2001, 05:16 AM   #5
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Okay, good luck on your web host quest!

Try www.webhosting.com -- Good hosting...
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Old 04-25-2001, 06:52 PM   #6
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Without my UBB, my site's basically dead. I emailed A+ and mentioned I use UBB and they had this to say:

"The servers are fast, however, any script (UBB) consuming large
amounts of CPU is not allowed... "

Anybody using A+ right now with UBB (He did mention UBB6.0 uses less CPU, but I can't go upto 6.0 unless I want to loose all my hacks) without a prob?
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Old 04-26-2001, 10:14 AM   #7
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Did you read their terms of service?

"Webspace usage
Contrary to popular belief, high quality webspace is not cheap. Yes, a 37GB hard drive might cost around $350 (as of January 2000), but a 50GB RAID5 storage device costs over $3,500. Because of this, the usage of webspace by customers is constantly monitored. Here are the guidelines for webspace usage:
Customers may use their webspace to ONLY store their website.
You may not download files to your account (by using Lynx of wget), unless the file is to become part of the website.
You may not store personal files on your account. Webspace is not for personal backups!
All files on your webspace must be linked to pages. That is, you may not have "orphaned files" (files that are not part of the website). Please do maintenance from time to time and delete files that are no longer used.
Always delete temporary files (like those created by wget).
Do not store thousands of files on a single directory. This slows down access to the filesystem, and will make the delivery of your files slower.
CPU/RAM usage
The CPU/RAM consumption of a website may in no way affect the performance of a server. This means that the implementation of CGIs on a website must be carefully studied by the account's owner. Examples of what can cause high CPU/RAM usage are:
CGIs that handle too much data from text files. An example of this is a message board. The UBB (Ultimate Bulletin Board) is very known to consume very high amounts of CPU anytime it has to handle its flat file database (like when someone posts a message).
Perl scripts constantly executed consume a lot of server resources, since the Perl interpreter must be launched each time the script is called. Please read our CGI FAQ for information on how to prevent this.
Scripts with long loops.
Scripts that are constantly calling a database and doing complex queries.
Sites with traffic in excess of 50,000 hits per day will consume plenty of CPU and RAM, since the webserver has to handle more. No websites with more than 50,000 hits/day will be accepted for shared hosting at A+ Hosting. Such websites will need a dedicated server. Note: this policy will apply to all accounts at A+ Hosting."

A friend of mine was disappointed at the speed using VB. VB is faster than UBB, so I don't now how pleased you would be.

You might want to look at these:
http://hostrocket.com http://venturesonline.com http://wizardshosting.com

Good Luck!


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Old 04-26-2001, 01:31 PM   #8
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Tyme, where did you get that from? Whoever's web host that is, they are lying. Don't use them.

That is a bunch of bull. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/frown.gif
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Old 04-26-2001, 02:37 PM   #9
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Tyme obtained the data from the Host sites TOS in an effort to clarify and help all of us GEEKS.

Next, we all draw our own conclusions with respect to this text that a host has posted. Based on our collective knowledge and first hand experiences which is great http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

I don't know a thing about this host but I do know a thing or two about UBB http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif as well as vB. I do think that they aren't very UBB friendly http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif and I assume this would also apply to Hyperseek2K or even Links.
This is not unusall and I have seen it many times. It's a business decision.

What I would suggest Just_Plain_Onion <chuckle...I love that name> is that you wounder over to the InfoPop BB at:
http://ubbforums.infopop.com/cgi-bin...?ubb=forum&f=5 as their are some Hosts that specialize in UBB hosting.

This is a tricky issue in a shared server environment for a mid size to large BB. So telling them that you will run UBB and your storage and bandwidth requirements for a busy BB up front is a very very smart idea.

Good luck and HTH
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Old 04-26-2001, 04:36 PM   #10
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Actually it is from their Terms of Service, which you can find here:
http://www.aplushosting.com/english/policies.phtml

And they do implement it, which they should.
When you are in a shared hosting environment, you can not (or should not) expect the priviledges that you would have if you are on a dedicated server.

Some standards have to be set, and A+'s is being honest and upfront about it. My only criticism is that I could only find the TOS in one spot...the order page. A TOS should be available on every page (especially one that specific) and a customer should not have to hunt to find it.

No matter who you host with, read the TOS very carefully. You will be surprised what you find. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Old 04-26-2001, 09:21 PM   #11
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Thanks Steve_S, it's got an interesting story behind it too...but thats off subject ^_^

Well, my site was taken offline by my current host. I won't go into detail trying to explain why, because it's 100% my fault. I'm currently sending out email to everybody I know who comes to the site telling them of the current temp URL.

Anyways, I signed up with the host I was most interested in at the time, CWI. I did check through this forum, and I saw that some people didn't like them, but they offer just what I need, and a lot of small to midsize sites (Like myself) seem to like them a lot. I also emailed them with everthing that might be a problem, and they said everything is A-ok with them (Including UBB)...which is cool because their the only ones out of 4 I emailed that said that.
I really should have checked back here first though, I didn't think it would of had any more responces =p

Thanks a lot guys. I've been coming to this forum for a long time (Just havent been posting) and have found it to be the best resource for a webmaster http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

EDIT: If you would like, you could check this topic for the URL http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

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