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Old 12-08-2001, 01:22 AM   #1
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Might I add that a lot of folks involved in items 2-4 are:

In Jail
SEC sanctions
FDA bad list
FTC cease and desist
AG legal actions in numerous states

So, you face a serious challenge in creating a quality site and monetizing same since a lot of surfer folks and advertisers have already either been ripped off or have a preconceived negative connatation of what it's about so they ain't interested. Forums also fit into this equation and it took me years to break through the preconceived notions. I'm not so sure I would try it today

I'm not saying ALL sites and I'm not saying you couldn't make a go of it with 2-4 since you already created a neat and quality site. Just the realities. Besides, after you do your Ebay auction as we discussed in the other thread you won't have time for anything else I'm darn sure of that!

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Old 12-08-2001, 01:06 AM   #2
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I'm sorry Vito, I guess I misunderstood your initial post.

Indeed, if you carefully research a subject in your list and get a lot of factual information, then you could make it a quality site.

If you are prepared to go into one of the above in depth, have the time and don't try to promote "amazing cream to combat hair loss", "These pills will help you lose 20lbs overnight", "Fantastic MLM scheme makes you 1000s while you sleep" and porn of any kind, then I wish you luck
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Old 12-08-2001, 12:34 AM   #3
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Vito, you can't call:
1. ***
2. getting rich
3. losing weight
4. hair loss

quality sites

I have those subjects daily in my junk mail folder.

If I want access to any of the above, I most certainly wouldn't get them off the net.

If I want to lose weight, I would go on a natural diet and exercise program.

I am trying to get rich with affiliate programs

If I had a hair loss problem, I would consult my doctor for guidance.

If I.......I'll stop there
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Old 12-07-2001, 07:56 PM   #4
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I have to agree with Lil_Red!

*Steve adjusts his pacemaker*
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Old 12-08-2001, 12:41 AM   #5
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What if Vito could come up with a single product which covers all 4 at once?

A combined diet, ******, rogaine pill which you can sell to become incredibly rich!

That would get a few visitors to your site.

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Old 12-08-2001, 12:30 AM   #6
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There's gotta be some ***-craved, poor, over weight, bald guys out there, right? Hehe.
How is 3 out of 4? (Not telling which 3)

Seriously though, if you just want to know about popular subjects, here is the (editted for stupidty, cleaned-up) Lycos top 10 at the moment:

1 Christmas
2 Dragonball
3 Harry Potter
4 Osama bin Laden
5 Britney Spears
6 Morpheus
7 NFL
8 Xbox
9 Pokemon
10 Tattoos

See Lycos Top 50 for more info.

Here is the Wordtracker (ticker) top 20 for today:

1. Yahoo
2. ***
3. jokes
4. hotmail.com
5. hotmail
6. ebay
7. yahoo.com
8. lyrics
9. google
10. attorney/legal
11. www.hotmail.com
12. ww.yahoo.com
13. music
14. games
15. ebay.ca
16. morpheus
17. xxx
18. dictionary
19. song lyrics
20. christmas

See Word Tracker for more info.

Finally, here is Yahoo's current top 20 list:

1 Christmas
2 PlayStation
3 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
4 Dragon Ball Z
5 Segway
6 Britney Spears
7 Xbox
8 WWF
9 Morpheus
10 Lord of the Rings
11 Nintendo Game Cube
12 National Football League
13 Goner Virus
14 Jennifer Lopez
15 NBA
16 O.J. Simpson
17 Linkin Park
18 Osama bin Laden
19 Shakira
20 Everquest

See Yahoo Buzz for more info.

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Old 12-12-2001, 01:24 AM   #7
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I think according to the top keywords in search engines sort of gives you an idea what people are looking the top keyword is ***. Then again britney spears is also in the top 30 keywords it's funny as trends change so do the visitors, ie britney spears maybe in the top 30 but then after she may after be a has-been sites. But *** never changes (grin), who can get bored of ***?
hehe. What discusts me with *** sites though I'd like to reveal is most are rip off sites from other sites, and what they do is usually they subscribe to services from other popular sites and then automatically make the person login to the other sites through their sites somehow (ie buy 1 subscription to other sites) then charge say 1000 people to see that site through the username/pass they use from their site.
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Old 12-09-2001, 11:00 PM   #8
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Here's the name for the product.

Viagrophen.



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What if Vito could come up with a single product which covers all 4 at once?

A combined diet, ******, rogaine pill which you can sell to become incredibly rich!

That would get a few visitors to your site.
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Old 12-13-2001, 12:04 AM   #9
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I've found that looking over what type of email spam you receive every day tends to tell you what types of sites are making money. How many of us receive every day the "lower your debt today" and "drop 20 pounds in two months time" type of spam?

I use this information to tell me what kind of sites make good $$ out there. I personally don't use email spam as a marketing tool , but I sure do have a number of sites about similar products and it does tend to pay very well if you can get ranked well in the directories and the search engines.
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Old 12-08-2001, 03:15 PM   #10
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If you're creating a site out of passion for having a cool site, make it on whatever interests you and be happy not because it makes money but because it's your passion.

If you're creating a site to make money, find an idea/product/affiliate program that'll make you good money and build a small and simple site around it.

In my experience "low quality" sites will earn you more cash and produce less headaches. You don't need dynamic content, flash pages, bells, whisltes, etc, to make money. In most cases it actually HINDERS making money.

Build a three or four page website about credit cards, slather the site with content-looking ads for credit cards, and buy (or hunt for free) traffic looking for credit cards.

Follow the same idea for loans, game consoles, magazines, etc.

Nothing wrong with "low quality" sites at all!
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Old 12-10-2001, 11:09 PM   #11
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Originally posted by mr_innovate
I think that you can suceed by running sites that you don't really have an interest in, as long as you know your way around the internet and know how to get good SE listings. But remember that you will make more money from one good site rather than ten half-good ones.

It really depends on what your personality is like. I tend to keep creating new web sites as I like the buzz of launching and promoting them. In reality I should probably concentrate more on my existing sites

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I really beg to differ on this one. For the common webmaster who is running a 'business' for himself, 10 "medium" quality sites could very well make a wealth of money over one extremely high quality site.

Most of the 'HIGH QUALITY/HIGH TRAFFIC' sites that generate massive ammounts of revenue aren't 1 man operations, and even if they are the person still has all their eggs in 1 basket

Take it from me, I spent 2 years trying to develop the best sites possible (None of these are listed in my sig/profile fyi), and have found myself focusing on smaller sites, that still have content but are far from the 'best' and cloning them to high hell. More search engine entries, more oppurtunities to get different visitors, and most important if one of my sites fail I am not 'doomed' as far as my online ventures go

I suppose to each his own, but I don't necessarily think trying to create 'mega sites' is the best route for a sole proprietor, unless of course you are the first in your niche (which these days, is well, rare).
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Old 12-07-2001, 09:23 PM   #12
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It sounds like you're trying to slap a site together to make a quick buck rather than build a quality site. Nowadays, there is no such thing as slap a site up and the checks come rolling in. It takes a lot of work and effort and a desire to build a site that attracts visitors.

There already are a ton of get rich, ***, weight loss and hair loss sites on the web. Why would anyone be interested in one more?
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Old 12-07-2001, 07:47 PM   #13
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To be totally honest - none of the above.
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Old 12-08-2001, 11:06 PM   #14
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Vito,

If you are interested in creating a quick mini-site for driving sales, then I would heavily recommend developing a website about losing weight, dieting and nutrition. You will find that sales for these types of products are tremendous right after the holidays.

Many people make new year's resolutions to lose weight, other people feel guilty about stuffing their face over the holidays with deserts and everything. That means big sales in January. Then in February/March, people in the South (U.S.) start trying to get into beach weather. Followed by April/May when people in the North (U.S.) start doing the same. But hey don't take my word for it, ask anybody who works in a health food store.

Best of luck and much success to you!

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Old 12-08-2001, 11:28 PM   #15
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Well if you are looking at creating a quick site, then your best bet is to start out with a purely promotional mini-site, providing details on (and affiliate links to) several of the better selling health/dieting products. Once you have the income-generating part of your website activated, then you will have time to add helpful articles, info and resources.

But please don't limit yourself to my suggestions. Open your mind, use your creativity and see if there is something unique and personal that you can add to your new website.

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