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OC
09-26-2002, 05:11 PM
Look.

Instead of first displaying Yahoo-listed "sites" and then having an option for Google-listed "pages", they just display Google's results and mark any Yahoo-listed sites with a red "Y!"


:eek: :eek: :eek:

For my plans, this is bad. Very, very bad. For you this may be good.

:eek: :eek: :eek:


SEO people must be running around faster than chickens with their heads cut off.


Edit: Thanks for the move.

Nintendo
09-26-2002, 07:44 PM
What ever it was, it's not like that now. It's the way it always was, sponsors first, then categories, then sites listed in Yahoo, and then finally links from Google. That's good, two of my sites that are in Yahoo are listed in the first 20 links on this link, keyword Nintendo.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=nintendo

funpage
09-26-2002, 08:21 PM
I am getting the same results as OC is describing as well.

sdarken
09-27-2002, 01:00 AM
Can you provide a sample search where you receive these red "Y"s?

OC
09-27-2002, 08:32 AM
Nintendo, for a brief moment you gave me great happiness. :)

Funpage, you ruined that happiness. I'm still seeing it, too. :(

Simon, here you go:
HTML "screen shot"* of a search for "las vegas hotels" at Yahoo: http://www22.brinkster.com/dinkar/yahoo.htm
Note correlation of search results for "las vegas hotels" from Google (include parentheses): http://www.google.com/search?q=%22las+vegas+hotels%22

:( So much for basically buying traffic from Yahoo for cheap.


At least there's a glimmer of hope this is happening selectively to people.



*Link provided by some guy from some forum

OC
09-27-2002, 08:35 AM
Here's another person's screenshot:

At Yahoo:
http://www.spy-patrol.com/images/yahoo.htm

At Google:
http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22spy+software%22

robhoran
09-27-2002, 11:32 AM
Nintendo,

I used your link to search for "Nintendo" and I get the same effect as "OC". Now you get Red "Y's" alongside the sites that are listed in the Yahoo Directory. I'm sure this is new.

Also, its interesting that the site listed at position 3 on this list isn't in the Yahoo Directory. Does this mean that having a Yahoo paid listing isn't worth it anymore?

robhoran
09-27-2002, 11:35 AM
Just tried the UK Yahoo because this hasn't been updated with the new Yahoo look yet and it gives different results.

Here the sites in the directory are shown first before showing the Web Page matches:

http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search/ukie?p=nintendo&y=y

sdarken
09-27-2002, 01:37 PM
Interesting. I did the same search for "las vegas hotels" and still dont see the "Y"'s

OC
09-28-2002, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by sdarken
Interesting. I did the same search for "las vegas hotels" and still dont see the "Y"'s


That's interesting, because now I'm not seeing them.



Oh the drama.



Originally posted by robhoran
Also, its interesting that the site listed at position 3 on this list isn't in the Yahoo Directory. Does this mean that having a Yahoo paid listing isn't worth it anymore?

Pretty much... unless you really, really want a red Y! under your listing.


Yahoo! is losing alot of $399 sales from unsure SEO people right now. They need to make an official statement.


If they did suddenly change everything, people should request for their $299 or $399 back.

robhoran
09-28-2002, 09:03 AM
Now its back how it was. The red "Y's" are all gone and its back to showing the Web Sites first before going to the Web page results.

Maybe they were just playing with a "new" look (also worrying for the future)

Pity there are no Yahoo people on this board to comment.

OC
09-28-2002, 03:16 PM
Pity no one has anything more to offer about this at any of the forums I checked (even SEO ones).

All is well for now.

OC
10-09-2002, 04:40 PM
It's happening again. :(


It's not a red Y! (http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/search/b/y.gif) this time. It's this red arrow: :(
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/search/b/m.gif


I was going to make a Yahoo submission tomorrow or the day after.

OC
10-09-2002, 05:01 PM
Other people are reporting the results have returned to normal once they've deleted their cookies. Others have said that it doesn't work and it's dependent on either the version of IE or the OS.


Please post what results you're seeing and your OS and browser. Clear your cookies and see if anything changes. Also specify if you have the Google Toolbar installed.



EDIT: Never mind. IT'S OFFICIAL!
Rejoice if you are ranked well in Google.

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/ysearch-22.html

You may have noticed that the Yahoo! Search results look a little different.
As part of our ongoing efforts to offer you the easiest and most rewarding search experience, by default we now list results ranked by relevancy that combine web page matches from both third parties and the Yahoo! Directory.

Previously, by default we listed search results from the Yahoo! Directory and third-party search engine providers separately. Directory listings can still be viewed separately by clicking on the "Directory Site Matches" option in the navigation bar located below the search box.


"Web sites" and "Web pages" listings are no longer automatically given to searchers.

Immediate Yahoo! search results are now a Google feed with Y!-listed sites indicated with a small red icon. The icon points to a Yahoo! category link underneath your listing.

Your paid listing is essentially worthless if you paid to be included and optimized your domain name and title for their original results system. Is the icon and residual Yahoo effect worth $300?

I'm glad they switched only days before I was scheduled to submit a commercial site for $299. You may not be so lucky.

If you already paid them for an optimized listing, contact Yahoo! immediately.

Tell them that you feel mistreated as a loyal customer and the new results system is unacceptable.

Inform them that you will DEFINITELY NOT be renewing your recurring fee if the search results stay this way.

Tell them you desire a refund and/or chargeback (if applicable to your situation).



Edit: Search Engine Watch announcement: http://www.searchenginewatch.com/sereport/02/10-yahoo.html

Click Here!