View Full Version : What do you guys think of the situation in the middle east?

10-16-2000, 10:10 AM
What do you guys think? (no racisim)

10-16-2000, 05:45 PM
Hmmmmmmm. *getting ready to duck*

This is an issue with much anger and sadness on both sides.

It's sad. Both sides have demands and expectations directly contradicting each other so neither side will agree to a "give and take" compromise relationship.

On the violence? From my side of the world in the U.S. (and a non-biased view point because I am not related to either sides although I have visited Israel in a tourist group), the Palestinians are being the aggressive ones and Israel is simply retaliating in defense. I am backing Israel. I am actually taking no heed to news reports from disturbed Palestinians that Israeli's are now using silencers to shoot at them so the they won't know where they are being shot at because Israel is simply defending itself! It's almost absurd that they shouldn't use them to open themselves up to the offensive groups! Now Arab nations are clamoring to support the Palestinians and issuing statements that they should remain strong and they would even take to arms to "defend" the Palestinians. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/frown.gif

My thoughts on peace? It isn't going to happen. Both sides are willing to wage full-blown war, dragging the world into it as well.

Is there any one who agrees with me on any of my oppinions or am I one lonely geek?

Just my oppinions. Judging by your nickname, you most likely hold a surprisingly different point of view. I don't want this to get heated or anything, so I will try to make this my last post in this thread.

[This message has been edited by OC (edited 10-16-2000).]

10-16-2000, 08:53 PM
Well this is certainly a complicated issue, and the U.S. always seems to get dragged into it (see the USS Cole attack). I kind of agree with OC though, the Palestinian leaders at like the Israelis are running around killing their people at will. Really, they are defending themselves. The Palestinians are not sitting around holding peacful protests (and Mr. Arafat is no Ghandi or Martin Luther King..) and getting mowed down by Israeli fire, as the Palestinian leadership would try and have you think. Should we just ignore what happened to the two Isreali soldiers (I saw the footage on CNN.Com - sickening) and say that this is 100% Israel attacking Palestinians?

If you read the news, you'll see that Isreal pulled back their forces mutliple times, only to have the other guys come and attack them again, so they got dragged back in.. You don't let people sit and shoot at you and throw rocks and say "Oh its ok, we're the bad guys.." And the Palestinians ARE shooting too, just not as accurately I guess. I find it hypocritical that the Palestinians DEMAND inquiries into this and act like it is 100% Israel's fault when they are unwilling to stop the violence, even when Isreal pulls back. They aren't the victim they want you to think they are. If you live in a glass house, don't throw stones http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

I do agree, however, that it is very sad to see what is going on. Both sides share some of the blame, but it is something deeper than the past few weeks that is causing this. Deeper than the past 50 or 200 years. Who knows when it will all end. Truly saddening, so many lives wasted for nothing.

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10-17-2000, 08:09 AM
THis issue is of biblical proportion...and I watch the Word for future developments.

...with 100% accuracy....

The land is a part of a covenant...and the Owner will make sure the rightful people get it.

If it amazes you that this seemingly small plot of land is always in the middle of controversy and so many are always fighting over it....go back in history to see it has always been so...

I have no doubt....it will continue to be so, until the triumphal end... (or is it really the beginning? http://geekvillage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)

I've got my eye on heaven....

10-17-2000, 10:05 AM
===Had to post again===

&lt;The following from a Biblical point-of view for those of you interested&gt;
You are indeed correct, Kathy. Taking a Biblical perspective makes you wonder big-time. If I am not mistaken, the Bible says there won't be peace there until the end. Without me getting too Biblical on everyone (my father and mother were both reverends), the Bible also says God will bless those who take care of His people and completely destroy those who do not. It just so happens the Israeli's are designated His nation. Don't get me wrong, this is not to say we are not His people, but it's to say God was specifically speaking about Israel at the time.

So basically, I myself am expecting any "peace agreements" made at summits to crumble... just as they have over and over again over all of history. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/frown.gif

I'm not getting too http://geekvillage.com/ubb/frown.gif , we still have a lot of http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif to look forward too.


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