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fairhousing
08-13-2000, 08:33 AM
i think Gore will win, but i lean left.

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kris
08-13-2000, 09:36 AM
bush will win. lets just say i hate gore less. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

Doc
08-13-2000, 04:28 PM
if Gore wins I'll cut off my left test...nevermind....

its bush....although in a perfect world....I'd opt for a third person. A strong leader with the looks of a model, a man known as.......DOC!

haha...sorry.... http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

Bryan
08-13-2000, 04:52 PM
I've seen this topic a trillion times so far on the web.

Since most of the people on this board are athiest, pro-abortion, etc, I'm guessing you'll all choose Gore.

I myself, am against abortion, want lower taxes, want to end all of this welfare trash, and want a president who isn't caught in a trillion scandals each month.

Look what good ole' Clinton brought us! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000810/aponline193125_000.htm

Too bad CNN (Clinton News Network) didn't decide to cover that. If it were republicans doing that, it would be all over the media.



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Doc
08-13-2000, 08:13 PM
don't be so hard on us bryan....I for one would prefer death to being thought of as a Democrat....

I too am against abortion....and all the other ideologies supported by the party who's motto is "People...what the heck do they know...let's make ALL their decisions for them...they obviously can't think for themselves..."

And since I'm here....I'd like to address one other item....to all those who would like to claim that the current era of prosperity was the work of one William Jefferson Clinton....HA!

Do you realize the length of time required before the policies and actions of one president actually have an effect on the economy? Clinton just happens to be sitting astride the tidal wave of economic goodtimes created both by the burgeoning internet and the actions of Reagan....

Look at the facts, the economic upswing started during the Reagan years, and except for a slip in 87, has continued since then. Yes he increased the debt, but the increases in spending allowed the boom which followed to form.

Sorry about that, but I'm a little sick of Clinton getting credit for our economy....I honestly can't think of one substantial improvement he's made in 8 years...and the lump known as Albert Gore...well...besides "inventing the internet"...NOTHING!

(and i'm being sarcastic about the internet....I'd be surprised if Gore could flip the on switch without a team of staffers and some help from his public oppinion pollsters...)

ccole
08-13-2000, 08:42 PM
I sincerely doubt Gore had hardly anything to do with "inventing the internet." He probably took government money and partially funded the project, then took the credit because he was the most famous guy who had any part of it. He probably doesn't know the difference between a router and a hub.

I can't truthfully say I know about the subject, but most polititians work like that.

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MagicMan
08-13-2000, 09:54 PM
I propose we start our own party! Why should we let the Republicans, Democrats or Reformists control our destiny? I propose we immediately begin the nomination process for the first GEEK PARTY Presidential Candidate! Some come on, nominate those Geeks you feel would be the best person to sit in the Oval Office behind the world's biggest computer screen! Let's hear those slogans! Like " The Geek Party--- Here for America, just in time"....Let's hear those campaign promises...."I Promise, if elected, that every American shall have free internet access"....Let's hear those speeches..." I have a dream. Every Citizen living, regardless of geek status, will not have to put up with slow loading web pages. I dream that all internet access is free. Free at last, Free at last, Thank the geeks the internet is free at last". How about some public debates? "Sir, I know Steve the Geek, and you are no S-T-G"...so who will be the Geeks choice? Let's hear from you!

Remember, a wasted vote is not a vote at all!

MM
"The Geek Party, just in time for America"

Knix
08-14-2000, 06:27 AM
PERSONALLY, I think you just can't win with EITHER of these two... I'd rather see gore though, because you'll have such a great time laughing at him you won't care how bad he screws up...

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Bryan
08-14-2000, 09:04 AM
Right Knix, I mean, who gives a care about Human Life anyway? Pfffftttt

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Drastic
08-14-2000, 09:49 AM
This should help you decide:
http://www.jibjab.com/cartoons/raps/rp_main02.htm

This may take a while to dl on a dialup, but trust me, its worth the wait. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Be sure to use the slides and click on everyone.




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Bryan
08-17-2000, 06:29 AM
How to be a good Democrat

1. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about ***.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by yuppies driving SUVs.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.

7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand; in short, you support protecting the guilty and killing the innocent.

8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but some activists who've never been outside of Seattle do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, General Robert E. Lee or Thomas Edison.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.

16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail but a liar and probable *** offender belongs in the White House.

19. You have to believe that a homosexual parades displaying drag,transvestites and bestiality should be constitutionally protected and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States.

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Doc
08-17-2000, 10:34 AM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....shoot...that was good....so good that....


I HEREBY NOMINATE BRYAN FOR PRESIDENT!!

Knix
08-17-2000, 01:42 PM
Possibly you are just afraid of liberals because you are so extreme (perhaps if you are afraid of them getting angry you should stop insulting them so viciously)...

And what I said is that I think both will ***** up... So I don't know how you take from this that I am advicating democrats and thus am an evil person (and democrats aren't bad, I don't see how you can say "You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady." and then make slanderous remarks about their reaoning. If you are going to claim something like that how can any of the rest even be considered serious.)

Furthermore, I'm afraid that saying "As your President, I will eliminate pornography from the internet...." and then saying how the democrats have double standards is hypocrittical and completely rediculous... Why don't YOU pick one side and stick with it?

First you insult the democrats saying their are subjective and hypocritical... then you turn around and say the only bad porn is the porn on the internet... Some president you would make, "Well, it's ok to nuke China, but it just wouldn't be nice to nuke Canada." You know, since one doesn't follow your line of thinking they MUST be wrong and that justifies doing bad things to them am I right? I don't like porn therefor it MUST be wrong (but only if it's on the internet mind you)... is that what you are saying here Mr. president? pffft

It's terrible when a hypocrit accuses other of being the same (and therefor BAD)... That's a FAR worse form of the same thing...

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[This message has been edited by Knix (edited 08-17-2000).]

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Bryan
08-17-2000, 01:49 PM
Awwwww, calm down Knix. Don't get this thread locked please.

I'm for ALL porn to be banned http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif



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Knix
08-17-2000, 02:01 PM
You said ban porn on the internet, are you shifting your possition on this? I'm not promoting it or anything, I'm just asking you to stop being hypocritical, closedminded, and ethnocentric (those are some truely bad values)... I mean, just because you feel something is wrong doesn't mean that everybody must agree or be publicly lashed... You know, it's like revenge, if you kill a killer you are no different than they are, if you insult somebody and turn around and show the same traits as you accuse them of having, you are no better than they are (assuming they are indeed as bad as you claim, which I find it hard to believe a hypocrit)... I apologize to all the hypocrits out there, pffffffft...

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MagicMan
08-17-2000, 03:50 PM
I hereby nominate Knix for President running under the Reformist Geek Party!!

Watch out Ross Perot and Jesse Ventura, here comes Knix!

Bryan
08-17-2000, 06:03 PM
Uhh dude, all I said was ban on pornography.

I never talked to anyone, and I just said I wanted to ban porno as president.

I didn't say a word to you, so I don't know how you get all these names, "being hypocritical, closedminded, ethnocentric, hypocrite, killer."

Why do you like pornograhy so much anyway man? Does it give you that much pleasure that you have to go and attack me because I said I wanted to ban porno as pres?

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Knix
08-17-2000, 06:19 PM
Let me show you some of the things you said http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

Originally posted by Bryan:
You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

Thats just ONE of the TWENTY things you named off insulting the democratic party and every insult was basically "look at the hypocracy of the democratic party"

Originally posted by Bryan:
As your President, I will eliminate pornography from the internet,

THEN you turn around and say, "lets ban porn (but just on the internet), lets do just what I said the democrats were bad for doing." Lets be SELECTIVE, it just shows that your views are different (but EQUALLY as flawed) and you are a hypocrit for claiming to be different and better...

You insult the democrats using these flaws as examples, and turn around and show the same flaws in your own thinking...

And I don't like porn, I just think it's rediculous how you are so close minded about the issue... and how you brought it up the way you did...


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Bryan
08-17-2000, 07:30 PM
Ok so your mad about me saying no porn on the internet.....

For some reason I forgot about it exists other places. Then I changed it to ALL porn (I had it in my head that the internet contained ALL PORN. Stupid me.).

Never seen someone with such a passion for pornography http://geekvillage.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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[This message has been edited by Bryan (edited 08-17-2000).]

Doc
08-17-2000, 09:31 PM
whoa....calm down knix.....pull the knife away from Bryan's throat....easy boy.... http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

You took one tiny statement from Bryan's post and turned it into the central issue. This was both unfair to Bryan, and to the rest of us. Furthermore, you mistated the actual meaning of your attack against him as being a result of his "hypocritical" comment.

For his comment to be hypocritical, Bryan would have to be condeming internet porn on one hand and secretly running a porn site in the background. Even if he were suggesting banning only net porn (which he wasn't), your attack would hold no value. Perhaps he doesn't like porn on the internet because its easier for children to access it. Yet, rather than inquiring as to his meaning, you launched a personal attack on a flimsy reason. Shame, shame....truly.

Want more?

STARTQUOTE "You said ban porn on the internet, are you shifting your possition on this? " ENDQUOTE

When someone clarifies a statement, it isn't a shifting of position, ITS CLARIFICATION. Shifting of a position is if Bryan had said initially that he thought porn to be bad, but later amended that to "Porn should be distributed in the classroom."


next item:

STARTQUOTE Possibly you are just afraid of liberals because you are so extreme (perhaps if you are afraid of them getting angry you should stop insulting them so viciously)...ENDQUOTE


In no way were 19 of his posts offensive. They clearly state the positions of the Democratic party as displayed by their actions. Some people may find the comment about Hillary to be an insult, but if you listen to the multitude of sources who all clearly site her profanity, utter disregard for authority, blatant ill treatment of those who protect her and her desire to subjugate even the most important facets of the law in her drive for personal power, then in truth it is impossible to call her a lady in any sense.


Moreover, you attacked Bryan for being hypocritical. A charge that was utterly without value or merit. As testimony to this, I would ask that everyone read the angry comments knix made in earlier posts. He behaved in the typical irrational manner of all those who dislike it when someone voices an opinnion and thus attack it vehemently, throwing out a slew of of comments in machine gun manner, all of which seek to detract from the original issue. The fact of the matter is, Bryan hit home with many of his comments, but because you disagreed with them you sought to distract the rest of us by clouding the true issue of this topic: Gore or Bush?

One more thing:

As for the Democrats as a whole, the true nature of the party is rearing its head each and every day, but most do not, or would prefer not to, see it for what it is. Just tonight I listened to Albert Gore give his acceptance speech. Littered amongst the rousing catch phrases was a web of hypocrisy so immense, I could hardly believe he would make those statements for fear of being called down (not that would happen, with the liberal media that our country has). I'll just site a few limited examples so as not to be accused of mouthing accusations I cannot support.

#1
One of the focal points of Gore's speech was "securing" the Social Security Fund. He mentioned "protecting" it against raids. Does anyone remember the first time Congress approved opening the fund for use?

Hint: the charge was led by Democrats

#2
He wants to eliminate special interest money from elections.

What's wrong with this you say? Well my friends, what presidential nominee was caught accepting contributions from thinly veiled agents of the communist Chinese government? What nominee is currently under investigation for these actions?

Hint: his last name rhymes with Bore

Before going to #3, I would like everyone to think for a moment. Which do you believe is more of a threat to our national security, 20 million from a company (any company, even the DREADED tobacco companies), or 20 million from agents of the Chinese government?


#3
And I find this disturbing, especially with his next statement

"We are the generation that ridded the world of facism and communism."

is this so??? HAS CHINA SUDDENLY BEEN WHISKED INTO NOTHINGNESS???

Hint: NO, AND ITS STILL COMMUNIST

I won't go into the other issues I disagreed with now, as I have sleep to get and most of you probably don't care. I must say that I am disturbed by the ideology so fervently followed by so many of my fellow citizens, and can only hope that neither Gore nor Mrs. Clinton win in their struggles for power.

oh..and knix....SHAME SHAME http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

BRYAN:...I've got the posters ready...start working on your speeches!!

[This message has been edited by Doc (edited 08-17-2000).]

Bryan
08-17-2000, 11:32 PM
Thank you! Thank you!

As your President, I will eliminate pornography from the internet, non-paying sponsors, and abortion (everything the typical geek loves).

I will lower taxes, and end welfare competely.

I will put an end of "Activists" who think they know everything about animals and hunting, yet have never been out of the city, and put an end to all gun laws/restrictions.

I will stop funding for public schools (Person spends twice as much money in taxes sending kid to public schools then sending to a private) and let individuals/private organizations distrube charity, not have peoples money taken by force with programs invented by liberals who think they know how to run my life.

The death penalty will be manditory for murderers and other serious offenses.

I thank you for nominating me for president!

*Bows*

*Waits for all the liberals/democrats/athiests on this board to start bashing me or for Steve to lock the thread.*

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-Bryan

Knix
08-18-2000, 12:13 AM
Alright first, going from saying "get rid of porn on the internet" to saying "get rid of all porn" is a shift in advocacy. Before he CLEARLY stated one thing, turns around and says no no heres what I meant (well if thats what you MEANT why didn't you say THAT?)

Originally posted by Bryan:
You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists.

I haven't seen any american people die because of getting nuked by china (our mortal enemy from the way you speak), but I have heard of people who were law-abiding citizens going out all of a sudden and shooting people... (which one is really the bigger threat you think? Seems to me that nobody is as eager to shoot nukes as guns)

Originally posted by Bryan:
9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but some activists who've never been outside of Seattle do.

Ok, so activists don't have the right to make laws or such about nature because they've never been in it right? How then can you, as a man be against abortion (you've never givin' birth I'm assuming, so wouldn't this by your logic be a women's issue and men should just back down because they just don't know what it's all about?) Why should men have the right to make laws for women if activists can't make laws for hunters? (personally I believe that it should be a group effort, buy you seem to be saying let hunters take care of themselves. Sounds like you are for people taking care of issues that most affect THEM, unless of course you happen to have views on these issues...)

Originally posted by Bryan:
16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady.

Now what is the point to this? You can't say this isn't an insult, to think even for a minute that there is a chance of her being a man (or less of a proper person than another lady, depending on how you take lady to mean) is rediculous (only somebody who really dislikes her and/or democrats would say such a thing. Being a democrat or a clinton doesn't make you evil, and being a republican doesn't make you a saint.)

Originally posted by Bryan:
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge

So are you saying socialism will never work? If so how do you know? Would democracy work under the wrong people, probably not. In a monarchy if you have a bad king things in the country/kingdom don't work out well, if however you have a good king, people love it. Any form of government can work if run by good people.

It also seems to me that you are very frightened of the chinese, like they are some evil scourge sent to kill us all (you do much the same toward the democrats), lighten up...

As I said before, Gore isn't all that bright, I just think that you shouldn't be so angry and narrowminded... Granted the democrats have problems (don't we all?) I'm sure they aren't complete EVIL as you would make them sound, and I'm sure the republicans aren't perfect either...

And just for the record, I wasn't the one who started this, it was bryan when he said "Right Knix, I mean, who gives a care about Human Life anyway? Pfffftttt" and then he, not me, took out the "machine gun" and started throwing out insults (they could possibly all be true, but the insult lies also in the context, they were meant to be harsh and anti-democrat, not just a statement of the democratic possition) And thank you Doc for telling me the goal of my post but uh, your way off. Gore or Bush? I believe I already answered this question (BEFORE this other stuff started)

FINALLY, I would like to again state that I DO NOT like/look at porn, I'm simply saying if somebody else wants to look at it, what right do I have to stop him? Bryan seems to think that his not liking it is reason enough to outlaw it, there was already a string about this issue, in which he never gave any solid reasoning on why porn is bad. Other than comparing pornographers to murderers or something like that I can't remember exactly to be honest, if you scroll down in the geek/yak forum you can read up on it, under "LITTLE ONES?" if you so desire...)

I've said my part, I think it's almost time to start worring about making money again...

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MagicMan
08-18-2000, 03:45 PM
I hereby withdraw my nomination of Knix for president. I think he might swing a little to right for the reformist geek party.

Now, all joking aside, every person is entitled to his or her own opinion, as long as you VOICE that opinion when it counts, on election day. If you don't plan on voting, then you have no right to complain or whine about the choices. Now before those of you jump on me because you are under the voting age, I applaud your efforts to be better informed and have an opinion, and I know when the time comes, you will make your voice heard with your vote. A good healthy debate on the issues is fine, but take away the personal attacks.

One small other matter.....Socialism does not work, as evidenced by the collapse of the former Soviet Union. As people across the world become more "Westernized", most communist and socialist regimes will fall. It's only a matter of time.

Bryan
08-18-2000, 04:23 PM
Your right Knix. I havn't been a woman in an Abortion.

Have you been the baby in an abortion?

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m3rcury
08-18-2000, 04:34 PM
I have a good idea knix: BACK UP OFF THESE GUYS! Your opinion is your opinion but I don't see the point of picking apart everything Bryan said and attacking him. It's his opinion, you deal with it. You don't have to agree with him but I think we all do agree when I say we're not here to watch you guys have a fistfight.

Personally, in my honest opinion, I think Gore is an idiot. He's not even half the politician that Clinton was. I usually lean towards the conservative side on issues, so I didn't agree with Clinton much at all, but I have to admit that he is a GREAT politician. However you want to take that. He knows how the play the game (so to speak)

Gore strikes me as more of a follower than a leader. Like he does a better job as clinton's gopher than he would if he were running the show. Anyways, just my opinion. I did however decide to include some of my favorite quotes by our esteemed vice president gore:


"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." -- Al Gore

"Democrats understand the importance of bondage between a mother and
child."
---Vice President Al Gore

"Welcome to President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, and my fellow astronauts."
---
Vice President Al Gore

"Mars is essentially in the same orbit as Earth... Mars is somewhat the
same
distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where
there are canals, we believe, & water. If there is water, that means there
is
oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe." ---Vice President Al
Gore,
8/11/94

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in
this
century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this
century." ---Vice President Al Gore, 9/15/95

"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and
democracy,
but that could change." ---Vice President Al Gore, 5/22/98

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, & that
one
word is 'to be prepared'." --Vice President Al Gore, 12/6/93

"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things." ---Vice President Al
Gore,
11/30/96

"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the
future." ---Vice President Al Gore

"The future will be better tomorrow." ---Vice President Al Gore

"We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world."
---Vice
President Al Gore, 9/21/97

"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and
have a
tremendous impact on history." ---Vice President Al Gore

"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." ---Vice President Al
Gore
to Sam Donald son, 8/17/93

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm
commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe." ---Vice President Al Gore

"Public speaking is very easy." --Vice President Al Gore to reporters
10/95

"I am not part of the problem. I am a Democrat." --Vice President Al Gore

"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."
---Vice President Al Gore

"When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my
answer
has been direct & simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to
blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame."
---Vice
President Al Gore

"Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."
---Vice President Al Gore, 5/20/96

"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." ---Vice
President Al Gore, 9/22/97

"For NASA, space is still a high priority." ---Vice President Al Gore,
9/5/93

"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."
---Vice President Al Gore, 9/18/95

"The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that Al Gore
may
or may not make." ---Vice President Al Gore

"We're all capable of mistakes, but I do not care to enlighten you on the
mistakes we may or may not have made." --Vice President Al Gore

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in
our
air and water that are doing it." ---Vice President Al Gore

"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system." --Vice
President
Al Gore

TO SOME USERS OF THE INTERNET, THE ALL TIME FAVORITE
"As many of you know, I was very instrumental in the founding of the
Internet." --Vice President Al Gore to Katie Couric 3/99





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Doc
08-19-2000, 12:53 AM
ok knix....one little explanation for you....I'm gonna ignore all your other little comments...but about China...

when bryan made the comment about our nuclear technology being possessed by the Chinese....and he said that was B A D....you responded by saying something about the Chinese having not popped off any nukes at us lately...

so basically you were saying that the theft of out top secret nuke tech. isn't really that big a deal...

DO YOU KNOW WHY COUNTRIES DON'T SHOOT OFF NUKES LIKE FIRECRACKERS!???

its because its impossible to predict the actions of the other parties....not knowing the true extent of their technology prohibits an effective analysis of prospective reactions to acts of nuclear aggression....

true...china isn't a problem right now.....but things change....to live in the fairy tale world where America is always dominant and supreme is dangerous.....nations that are not problems now, could be in the future....and the strength of the Chinese should not be underestimated....

so yes...I do perceive China as a potential problem..and I have a right to....because first and foremost I am an American, I am not a part of a GLOBAL society, I am a part of AMERICAN society, and I will pick what's best for MY country over all others....a healthy dose of paranoia isn't a bad thing....its what has kept us on top of the world....

hobbnet
08-21-2000, 05:21 PM
Gore got my vote ever since he had Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid sing the National Anthem at the convention. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

necrominator
09-01-2000, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Bryan:
I've seen this topic a trillion times so far on the web.

Since most of the people on this board are athiest, pro-abortion, etc, I'm guessing you'll all choose Gore.

I myself, am against abortion, want lower taxes, want to end all of this welfare trash, and want a president who isn't caught in a trillion scandals each month.

Look what good ole' Clinton brought us! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000810/aponline193125_000.htm

Too bad CNN (Clinton News Network) didn't decide to cover that. If it were republicans doing that, it would be all over the media.


Bad link man

WildComputer
09-02-2000, 02:26 AM
Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid


If you are a fan of this guy, make sure you see a movie called King Cobra. Erik Estrada also makes a brief and hilarious appearance in this movie too.

sterlingbeck
09-03-2000, 04:50 PM
Just my opinion, as always, PLEASE DON'T VOTE FOR GORE. I don't exactly love Bush, but I feel he'd at least be a half-decent president. It's not about the death penalty, abortion, gays, etc...it's about America, Gore will ruin it.
my two measly cents

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Sterling Beck
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Monkey
09-08-2000, 03:21 PM
Mr Miyagi rules. He should run for VP.


-C.

Ted S
09-08-2000, 03:56 PM
Personally, I'm not much of a fan of political parties at all. After all, why should a law be held up for years because some party is being stubborn because the other didn't pass some bill during the last vote due to their stubbornness.

As a political science student, I certainly understand why parties formed and what makes for their problems. Still, I'm not infavor or either party. Personally, any president that promises to toughen up our border to Mexico, cut the welfare & social security programs (something about me paying taxes for a program that will be gone 30 years before I retire doesn't click for me -- after all, the avaerage retired person has only paid enough in taxes to pay for a few years of social security) and actually takes a little power away from the old business world (ie the recording industry) and shifts it to the future of this world, I;ll be damn happy.

Other things I'd like to have in a president include someone who actually understands having our military be an inch ahead of the rest of the world DOES NOT CUT IT and restores the power this country needs to stay ahead.; someone who understands that democracy is about people SOMEWHAT and doesn't care to jump over party lines ONCE and a while.

Doc
09-08-2000, 04:21 PM
ALL good points Ted!

As for parties, to me its a matter of picking the one who is the least dangerous to our country. That for me is Bush.

To me at least, it seems as though on most issues Democrats and Republicans are singing the same tune, a tune I'd rather not hear. It appears that they are slowly morphing into one. True, there are differences between the two, but not as many as I used to believe there were.

I'd LIKE to vote for a third party candidate whom actually speaks for me, but I don't think there is one who has a chance in heck of winning. So, I'd rather do my part to make sure Gore doesn't win. Its like I'm trapped. http://geekvillage.com/ubb/frown.gif

Ted S
09-08-2000, 04:39 PM
Doc, I couldn't agree more. 3rd party choics may at times be the 'best' bet in many people minds. However, without the endorsement of either the democratic or republican parties, it is almost impossible for anyone else to win.

My personal pick for this year would still be Mcain simply because while he has many of my 'right' sided views, he also had many 'left' views as well. It is my belief that regardless of who wins, they should be opinionated enough to state what they believe.

For example, I personally believe in aboration for the 1st & 2nd trimesters (with some limitations). However, for a politican to either have to state they are completely for or against aboration because of the slader the other party will create, policitians are unable to show their true ideas and end up being pushed to the left or the right instead of the middle where they may indeed fall.

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