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WildComputer
05-15-2000, 05:18 PM
Hi I have 2 proprietary programs which allow me to build sites with different content very quickly.

If you have a bunch of unused domains (atleast 10, preferably 20 or more) all on a similar theme and don't have time to build sites, I can use these programs to build sites for you.

Basically you will need:
1. Domain names - a bunch of on the same theme
2. Hosting - if you have a dedicated/name-server you could use this, alternatively you cna use a free domain host such as AboveWorld etc.


I will contribute
1. Build the content (multiple pages typically 20 pages or so per site). Important - these are REAL SITES with REAL CONTENT - one site I built like this at a free web host just won an award from a major search engine. I can not promise yours will be as good, but it shows what's possible.
2. Upload the files (or mail you the stuff as a ZIP)
3. Join some top sites if you like and include this in the content
4. Include your banner/banner exchange code
5. Index it into major search engines
6. I may also do more promotion than this depending on the site - but do NOT promise to do any.

You get
1. 100% of the banner space (subject to your your hosts restrictions if using free domain host)
2. Your ezine sign box if you want
3. Links to any other sites you own incorporated.
4. Get paid to surf - if you're in these - (I'm not) use your referral ids for any applicable links.

I get
1. Incorporate my affiliate text links in the content
2. Links to appropriate sites I own incorporated

Your responsibility
1. Any additional promotion you want to do.
2. I retain copyright to the content, but give you permission to use it for the duration.
3. After it's done, but you agree to leave my affiliate links until you sell the domain or build a real site (not using my content). Honor and all that stuff.


So if you have unused domains, at least you make some $ on it until you sell the domain or get round to building a real site.

All this is subject to you having a theme which I can find appropriate affiliate links, that affiliate program permits me to use on multiple sites, and in my view offer a potential for reasonable return.

Finally themes I do not want: adult, MLM, MP3, Warez, etc. I also do not want to sites which the theme is solely get-paid-to-surf.

E-mail me at webmaster@ans2000.com if interested, domain names & suggested theme(s).

I am not 100% rigid about exactly how this works - so if you have a proposal for a variation on this tell me.

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singloon
05-15-2000, 06:48 PM
hmmmm... interesting proposal

until now all i have done with unused domains is stealth redirect them to subdirectories of existing sites with a little relevant content for now.

a question would these 2 programs of yours be able to build sites of the same theme if they required some perl scripting ? i.e. Gossamer Thread's Links 2.0 script ?

hehe did i mention i am a former Surrey Londoner http://geekvillage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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WildComputer
05-15-2000, 07:54 PM
In theory yes

In practice I wouldn't want to do it unless it's a lot of directories:

1. Setup takes time
Setting up the programs for a new type of content/site takes a bit time. Once I've done that I can spit out sites in under a minute each: although I may also do manual adjustment as well to finish off the site.

2. CGI sites may not be the best choice anyway
Assuming no real promotion effort, I'd assume most traffic would come from search engines. CGI based sites may not index well depending on which scripts you're using.

funpage
05-16-2000, 03:17 AM
I have three domain names that are greeting themes that I am not doing anything with.

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WildComputer
05-16-2000, 07:51 AM
Fun pages is a good choice.
1. Are you interested or just commenting?
2. I could do that.
3. If other people have unused fun domains, they could come in to, and we could also cross link em and stuff to really build up the traffic.

WildComputer
05-16-2000, 01:31 PM
OK

1. An e-mail is on the way soon http://geekvillage.com/ubb/smile.gif

2. You do not need to spend any money on hosting, if you already own the domain AND if you can live with a free domain host. I will give you URLs to a few of these you can take a look at.

3. Do you have ICQ. Add-me, I sent you my number.

Guava
05-16-2000, 06:20 PM
Alright I've got two spare domains that would be easy traffic.

---- ElectionBallots.com
With the elections coming up soon a site there could definitely rack up the uniques.
(no content for this site has been developed)


---- PicsCom.com
This site currently has a small amount of content and some AllClicks links. I intended it to be a pop culture hot chicks site. (non-nude) Currently has some Brittany Spears, Christina Aguilara, and Jessica Simpson pics. All other links go to AllClicks.
Any type of picture site will do well with this domain name.

I'd be willing to help/add content to these sites but don't want to do all the work (GuavaMail keeps me busy and it makes me money)

Other Domains that are currently used for free e-mail and redirect to GuavaMail.com that could be turned into their own independent sites with free e-mail integrated easily that I own are:

AOLisEvil.com
CoolForwards.com
CoolPeople.net <-- people love this domain
CountrySucks.com
Pet-Lover.com
RapIs****.com
ReeferMail.com

the **** above is the word C,R,A,P (minus the , )

And there you go. Want to do anything with any of those?

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Chazhound
05-16-2000, 08:09 PM
I have some domains that you may can do somethng with.

I emailed you.

Chazhound http://www.istockcar.com

WildComputer
05-16-2000, 08:29 PM
Cool
Check your e-mail Chaz

funpage
05-17-2000, 12:19 AM
I am pretty serious, it doesn't really cost me too much time or effort on my part. But it will cost me $ on setting up the three domains with pair. $25 setup plus $1 a month times all that by three, and that's over $100 for the first year, Money is not something I have a lot of at this moment.

Anyways, the domains are GreetingGrams.com CyberGreets.com and GreetGrams.com

Feel free to contact me by email...

Tim

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MagicMan
05-18-2000, 01:36 AM
I have a series of domains just sitting here too...just no time to do anything right now..Pretty interesting proposal...

desktopwarehouse.com
grafixwarehouse.com
fontwarehouse.com
affiliatewarehouse.com
webmasterwarehouse.com

and five other "warehouse.com"s that are in devolpment. this could certainly work out

I also have a series of ***network.com's

Question 1- What software will you use? Not Front Page I hope

Q2- No frames correct?

Q3- You say use for duration. No other timetable will be set, correct?

Q4- Content- I didn't see if it could be added, or do you want the the entire site to stay the same way until another is built?

I can see a whole group of us networked together....this just might work.....

WildComputer
05-18-2000, 03:22 AM
Question 1- What software will you use? Not Front Page I hope


Not front page. I have 3 (I forgot one I hadn't used) properietary programs on my computer than nobody else in the world has. They generate web sites from templates & data files.

Each site is real, has real content.

Development of a site consists of creating a template & datafile. Developing a 2nd site on the same theme, consists of creating another template (usually) although in some cases I can auto-generate the template.

Finally, maybe some manual tweaking.

The time consuming element is creating the datafile(s).


Q2- No frames correct?

No frames


Q3- You say use for duration. No other timetable will be set, correct?


No fixed timetable, but if I create a template or data file, or manually tweak a lot, specifically for you, I am investing time.

I would expect you to leave the site up for a reasonable time(a few months minimum) except if you sold the domain OR you got a chance to develop the domain using your own content rather than the stuff I supplied. If you redevelop the domain, remove all the stuff I gave you at that point.

My main concerns are
(a) Don't bother if you're gonna develop the site real soon anyway - you'd be wasting both our time
(b) When you do sell develop or sell the site/domain, just remove all the pages I give you. Personally I think it would be unfair to use content I supplied, and then treat it as your own.

Everything is negotiable, we should try and come up with an arrangement where we both make something.

If I am getting a reasonable offer, and I keep getting some revenue from the site, then I am more likely to spend time developing the templates, data & using my proprietary tools promoting your site.


Q4- Content- I didn't see if it could be added, or do you want the the entire site to stay the same way until another is built?


Good point, feel free to add to the stuff I give you. Any stuff you add is 100% yours. If it substantially replaces or means that the stuff I give you is not linked to the rest of the site, then I think it's fair to take my stuff down at that point. Is that okay?


1. E-mail me privately at webmaster@ans2000.com if interested.

2. Something else came up, so it will probably be 2-3 days before I start on anybody's site.

3. Re: your domains. I have stuff you could use for 2 of your domains almost immediately.

4. Please start thinking about hosting & what kind/proportion of the ads/links you want on your sites

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Edwin
05-22-2000, 11:20 PM
Wildcomputer, your offer sounds intriguing. Two questions: A) Would you consider setting up the sites for a one-off fee rather than ongoing deal? B) Can you supply some examples of sites built using the templates. I have over 700 domain names at the moment (listed on http://www.genkiproductions.com/ ) so may want to do something with your offer.

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Steve_S
06-15-2000, 01:40 PM
Hi,

What is the status of this deal? I have a friend who may be interestred

WildComputer
06-15-2000, 05:54 PM
It's still going

I got behind because of various other stuff: exploding router [literally], had to rewrite my program to handle tell-a-friend forms too (it only did static content before) and too many distractions like setting up ebookcompiler.com

Creating a site consists of 2 parts: creating data file(s) which are basically text, creating templates and running the program to make the site

I currently have datafiles, or close to, for general directory, travel, auction guide (not very good), credit stuff, horoscopes, auto, internet marketing, java games, a general interest directory, and greeting cards

Creating a datafile on a new topic is relatively time consuming especially if I don't know the topic - but not as time consuming as designing dozens or hundreds of pages manually.

Creating templates is basically the same as designing a single web page. Site can consist of one template or many with content from the data files.

Here are some samples of variable quality:
http://www3.50megs.com/airticket/ http://www4.50megs.com/horoscope/ http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/games-online http://peoples-search.tripod.com/

I have about another 50 or 60 of these at various places


Tim's one (reaching almost done stage) http://212.212.167.2/tim/index.html


I have been doing a site for Tim and spent way too much time doing other things (hence got behind), messing around with graphics, and stuff: so I need to tighten up what I do next time. I will finish Tim's stuff, leave EBook's alone for a while, & come back to this. The week beginning 23rd June I am available to do this pretty much full time for about 7-8 days so I can do a lot then - book early.

Edwin:
(A) yes. Obviously paid work from you or anybody else would take immediate priority, and I'd drop everything else till it's done.
(B) the most time efficient (and cost efficient if you decide to pay for this) way to do it is to do all sites on a theme - say all Xmas sites with similar content and different templates.

Say:
Xmas1 site = template 1 + content sections 1, 3, 5
Xmas2 site = template 2 + content sections 2, 4, 6
Xmas3 site = template 3 + content sections 1, 2, 3
Xmas4 site = template 4 + content sections 4, 5, 6

I think you see what I mean (?)


Steve, yes still alive. Got majorly side-tracked as stated above.




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Lavee
06-19-2000, 04:27 PM
WC,

I sent you an email regarding this topic. Did you get it.

Thanks

Lavee

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WildComputer
06-19-2000, 04:31 PM
Yes I did

I will get back to you soon

It sounds a good idea, although the bottom line is these are not my sites

I am finishing off Tim's sites right now, struggling with a stupid 3rd party script that refuses to work


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MagicMan
06-21-2000, 11:23 AM
Whew!!!
WC, just sent off an email to you to see what your time frame is like and if you can get to this. Sorry for the slow response on my end. Just finished moving from Southern California to Las Vegas, and then had our annual convention to deal with, so it has been a busy month! But what a month it was!

Regards,
Les

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